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Indeed, the wonder of the universe never ceases to amaze me.

There are two things in this world that always baffle me.

1) The Universe and all it's wonder.

2) People's stupidity and all it's wonder.
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I'm surprised nobody has come up with a "I'm in space. Space. Space. I'm in space. Spaaaace" Portal 2 joke by now biggrin.gif
 
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Originally Posted by tpi2007;13409910 
I'm surprised nobody has come up with a "I'm in space. Space. Space. I'm in space. Spaaaace" Portal 2 joke by now biggrin.gif

Naw, we all know that there is one man who can't die because his life is in (a) paradox. He came in the ouroboros!
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Originally Posted by Eduardv;13408723 
At this density,the the time is linear,so in this case i suppose that these black holes come from another density. Being from another denisty( Perhaps a higher one) excludes them from the linear timing stucture.

I'm not sure if something just got lost in translation or what, but this sentence is fairly nonsensical. I don't have the foggiest idea what you're trying to convey here. Come from another density? What?
    
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Originally Posted by aroc91;13410783 
I'm not sure if something just got lost in translation or what, but this sentence is fairly nonsensical. I don't have the foggiest idea what you're trying to convey here. Come from another density? What?

And I thought I've done drugs... I don't even know if I could type that drunk, usually by then my typing is all over the place.

[edit] I'm agreeing with you, that quote was way off.
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Originally Posted by Eduardv;13408723 
At this density,the the time is linear,so in this case i suppose that these black holes come from another density. Being from another denisty( Perhaps a higher one) excludes them from the linear timing stucture.

The Universe is way too mkysterious for our understanding,teh dimension,the way it works is simply mindblowing.
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Originally Posted by aroc91;13410783 
I'm not sure if something just got lost in translation or what, but this sentence is fairly nonsensical. I don't have the foggiest idea what you're trying to convey here. Come from another density? What?

I've read this kind of argument before.

I once read a site that tries to convince the skeptics that God exists. The hypothesis of there being something/layer/density above/outside of time is able to successfully render a few questions useless.

One of the arguments was that God has always existed because God is/operates outside of time, and therefore didn't start existing at a certain point you could eventually determine. If that were the case that would make God a creation of another higher being, thus not being really God. That is because the site said it could not have created itself - which indeed would pose the question of "why" did God create itself and why at that specific time - which is also weird because it assumes a decision making process prior to existence, which means it existed before existing LOL
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Originally Posted by Iceman23;13404084 
Yeah, and I can guarantee they also don't have a shred of the knowledge even required to understand the concepts behind theoretical astrophysics. To write it off because it seems completely foreign is pretty ignorant. As you said, electricity, space, nuclear devices, evolution etc etc - all supposedly "magic", far fetched ideas that are now commonplace knowledge in our society.

Do you people know how utterly HUGE it would be to learn anything about the universe before the universe?

It's hard to reason with people who are unreasonable.

People who complain about things they have absolutely no understanding seems pretty common, because if they knew anything about it they'd likely not be complaining. Ignorance is probably the number one problem in the world I'd say.

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Originally Posted by Willanhanyard;13407509 
I don't believe in the Big Bang or Big Crunch.

Thanks, nobody cares until you provide a good reason why. And ignorance isn't a good reason, so try again.
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What's awesome about the universe is that the universe is the way it is regardless of what you believe. No amount of wishing or hoping will ever change it.
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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm;13407723 
I like the theory(acutally not even a theory...more like a hypothosis) that black holes are the Universe's recyclers. You start with a big bang and every thing goes flying all over. Then stuff starts collecting due to gravity. Eventually you will get enough stuff smashed together and condensed enough to make black holes. These black holes keep sucking stuff up untill there is nothing left but other black holes to suck up. So the big ones eash the small ones untill you got two huge ones that eat each other. Then you have all the matter in the universe in one spot again. It condenses as much as it can till it is just a spec again and then...BOOM!, another big bang happens and it starts all over.

It is always possible that the bang would happen before all the black holes were picked up...maybe a lot of the black holes we can see are left overs that help jump start the next process.

Futurama season 6, episode 7 explains this quite well smile.gif

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvqvtYpNfD0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvqvtYpNfD0[/ame]
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Originally Posted by Genjimaru;13402996 
The whole basis for this theory is that the universe will eventually slow its expansion and begin contracting. However, all observation has shown that unverise is accelerating in its continued expansion. Still it is an intriguing idea.
This. The expansion of the universe is only increasing at an exponential rate thus ruling out the possibility for a big crunch. While it is an interesting idea, all evidence points to the universe expanding indefinitely until all bonds are broken thus ruling out this possibility
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