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I asked this before with little luck but I'm asking again....

The Gigabyte GA-E350N-USB3 supports overclocking the E-350 from 1.6GHz to 1.92GHz. Does any other Zacate mITX support CPU overclocking?


My concern is that Silverlight (Netflix) is currently not GPU accelerated so I want to compensate for this weakness.
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo;13403467 
The Gigabyte GA-E350N-USB3 supports overclocking the E-350 from 1.6GHz to 1.92GHz. Does any other Zacate mITX support CPU overclocking?

My concern is that Silverlight (Netflix) is currently not GPU accelerated so I want to compensate for this weakness.
ASUS does, I'm pretty sure. It seems the product has been discontinued, though. Lol, a simple overclock is not going to be enough for Netflix HD. Zacate can actually play some Netflix HD videos, but there are a few (e.g. Legend of the Seeker S01 E01) that would bring it to its knees.

Silverlight 5 adds DXVA support and there's already a public beta. Caveat, I think Netflix would also need to update their player to enable DXVA support.
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Originally Posted by rui-no-onna;13403515 
ASUS does, I'm pretty sure. It seems the product has been discontinued, though. Lol, a simple overclock is not going to be enough for Netflix HD. Zacate can actually play some Netflix HD videos, but there are a few (e.g. Legend of the Seeker S01 E01) that would bring it to its knees.

Silverlight 5 adds DXVA support and there's already a public beta. Caveat, I think Netflix would also need to update their player to enable DXVA support.

What are we looking at CPU-wise for Netflix HD?
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What are we looking at CPU-wise for Netflix HD?
Without DXVA? I can tell you a Core 2 Duo SU7300 1.3 GHz is still too slow and that's faster than both dual-core Atom and Zacate (even with the latter processors overclocked). The Dell Zino HD (with X2 3250e, 1.5GHz K8) also had issues, I believe. To be safe, I'd say any Celeron Wolfdale or Athlon II X2 should be fast enough.

From memory, though, the SU7300 didn't do too badly. Both Atom and Zacate were a slideshow at 1 FPS while the SU7300 just had a few dropped frames here and there (although this, I'll have to recheck). I think I'll try underclocking my Celeron E3300 to see what's the minimum required.
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Originally Posted by rui-no-onna;13404539 
Without DXVA? I can tell you a Core 2 Duo SU7300 1.3 GHz is still too slow and that's faster than both dual-core Atom and Zacate (even with the latter processors overclocked). The Dell Zino HD (with X2 3250e, 1.5GHz K8) also had issues, I believe. To be safe, I'd say any Celeron Wolfdale or Athlon II X2 should be fast enough.

From memory, though, the SU7300 didn't do too badly. Both Atom and Zacate were a slideshow at 1 FPS while the SU7300 just had a few dropped frames here and there (although this, I'll have to recheck). I think I'll try underclocking my Celeron E3300 to see what's the minimum required.

I am bit shocked that a SU7300 (1.3GHz) would be faster than an overclocked E-350 (1.9GHz).

I have a Athlon II X2 235e (2.7Gz) currently in my HTPC. I will do the same then.

Legend of the Seeker S01 E01 is an example of the highest bitrate Netflix video?
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo;13404689 
I am bit shocked that a SU7300 (1.3GHz) would be faster than an overclocked E-350 (1.9GHz).
Just goes to show how much architecture matters. My SU7300 may be overclocking a bit, though. It's an ASUS UL30A-X5. I'll have to double-check.
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I have a Athlon II X2 235e (2.7Gz) currently in my HTPC. I will do the same then.

Legend of the Seeker S01 E01 is an example of the highest bitrate Netflix video?
It's the most demanding video I've encountered so far (particularly the chase scene intro). You may need to force it to use the highest bitrate (only doable within the browser player in window mode). Once the video is loaded, I believe you press Ctrl+Alt+Shift+M, go to Stream Manager and manually select the highest bitrate available (3600 or 3800kbps, I believe). Then you can press Ctrl+Alt+Shift+M again and select A/V stats to view real-time stats such as CPU usage, dropped frames, etc.

Don't be confused if you see an entry for "GPU acceleration: True/True" in the stats. Silverlight 4 does have some form of hardware acceleration for transforms (resize, etc) but that uses the 3D engine and not the video decode engine. Actual decoding (which is pretty CPU-heavy) is still handled by the processor.
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Just goes to show how much architecture matters. My SU7300 may be overclocking a bit, though. It's an ASUS UL30A-X5. I'll have to double-check.

No TurboBoost on Core 2 so not overclocked (assuming Asus didn't).


What time is that chase scene?
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No TurboBoost on Core 2 so not overclocked (assuming Asus didn't).
Asus has their own Turbo thing which is why I wasn't sure. I think UL30VT models with Nvidia switchable graphics can go up to 1.7 GHz. Forgotten how much mine OC's. I put it through its paces when I first got it but that's like 1.5 years ago.
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What time is that chase scene?
The very beginning (first two minutes, I believe). I usually pause the video to let it buffer first. You can see the buffer and playback bitrates when you select A/V stats. tongue.gif
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Asrock does not overclock.
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Asrock does not overclock.
Yeah, I emailed them already. wink.gif
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