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This.

Even if this vaccine is released widely, I still believe people who got infected HIV voluntarily should be refused a vaccine because they chose not to wear protection and took risk. You take risk, your fault if it goes wrong.
Ah cool man. You've never made a hasty decision that could lead to dire consequences?

I do hope you don't drink, smoke or consume anything carcinogenic sir - because by your view then you shouldn't be allowed treatment for cancer since you were probably aware of possible consequences and took the risk anyway. Your fault if it goes wrong, right?

IMO any news that announces us a step closer to the prevention, erradication or "cure" to a particularly life threatening disease is great news. I can only hope it leads to further developments and eventually a HIV vaccine.
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I don't consume anything carcinogenic, and yes it is my fault if I got cancer because of that.
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This.

Even if this vaccine is released widely, I still believe people who got infected HIV voluntarily should be refused a vaccine because they chose not to wear protection and took risk. You take risk, your fault if it goes wrong.
Do you know people can be unknowing transmitting HIV (e.g. breast milk)?

You can also have HIV and have no symptoms.
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I don't consume anything carcinogenic, and yes it is my fault if I got cancer because of that.
So you've never had BBQ or grilled meat? You've never gone outside and breathed in the air? You've never been around smoke? You've never been in sunlight before?
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I don't consume anything carcinogenic, and yes it is my fault if I got cancer because of that.
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Do you know people can be unknowing transmitting HIV (e.g. breast milk)?

You can also have HIV and have no symptoms.
Disregard his comment. It doesn't even matter because the vaccine couldn't cure HIV anyways. Curing a HIV infection is next to impossible. One man in Germany successfully was cured of HIV but this was a special circumstance.

Doctors gave him an experimental bone marrow transplant. The bone marrow they gave him was from a person who was mutant for the protein used by HIV to bind and infect T-cells. Since T-cells are born in the bone marrow and HIV infects T-cells the patient's new bone marrow produced mutant T-cells impervious to HIV infection. His immune system bounced back and he shows no sign of the virus after a couple years now.

This is hardly a cure though. Bone marrow transplants themselves have a 30-50% chance of killing you as is. You must also find a tissue match for you bone marrow which by itself is hard. You then must find a person mutant for the specific gene (less than 1% of people have it) among those tissue matches.

It's next to impossible to cure HIV with today's technology.

Interestingly this also means that around 1% of people are naturally immune to HIV already.


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So you've never had BBQ or grilled meat? You've never gone outside and breathed in the air? You've never been around smoke? You've never been in sunlight before?
I don't care if BBQ is carcinogenic. There are some things in life worth dying for.
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Then again, I could only imagine the day scientists create a full blown HIV cure that has the ability to actively adapt against the virus. I'd imagine a cure like this would be an end-all remedy to all STD's though... Kind of like a programmed nanobug of some sort.
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Yup, that's exactly what I was talking about on my first comment back on page 1. HIV is a VERY VERY fast evolving virus. The inherent inaccuracy of it's genome replication introduces large amounts of mutation compared to most of other replication methods. This produces many heavily mutated and essentially broken viruses but also (due to sheer probability) produces resistant strains that are mutant in the key areas needed for resistance.

Most DNA replicating enzymes have a proofreading ability that lets them back up and fix mistakes. HIV reverse transcriptase lacks this ability and keeps on going if it makes a mistake.
    
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I thought HIV was God's way of smiting fornicators worldwide...this won't due...
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