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This.

Even if this vaccine is released widely, I still believe people who got infected HIV voluntarily should be refused a vaccine because they chose not to wear protection and took risk. You take risk, your fault if it goes wrong.


Also, I'm happy to see research moving forward on this. That being said, I would personally never take an HIV vaccine (at this stage at least) simply because the side effects could be just as bad if not worse than the virus itself. But there are so many effective and safe vaccines out there, who knows?
    
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this is good news.
    
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Do you know people can be unknowing transmitting HIV (e.g. breast milk)?

You can also have HIV and have no symptoms.
That's why you wear condom. Even with condom, there is still risk. Best protection is, of course, not getting laid.
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That or sneak a blood test from your partner.
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Finally I can stop wearing Gypsy tears around my neck..
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That's why you wear condom. Even with condom, there is still risk. Best protection is, of course, not getting laid.
Still beating cancer I see?
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I don't care if BBQ is carcinogenic. There are some things in life worth dying for.
So wait, how good looking is the chick we would be getting HIV from?
    
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Interestingly this also means that around 1% of people are naturally immune to HIV already.
You go on to say that 1% of people with mutant T-Cells are immune to HIV but previous posts you also mention that due to HIV virus changing its form it's impossible to lock onto a certain "signature" for the antibodies to shoot down the virus.

???

Does that mean that 1% will eventually be gone because sooner or later HIV will have mutated so that even those mutant T-Cells will not be impervious to HIV? Or it could even mean that other percentage of population could become immune to HIV one day?

I believe that one day we can lock onto the general root signature of this HIV virus. There may be many variants, but get the root.

*.hiv
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post #29 of 32
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This.

Even if this vaccine is released widely, I still believe people who got infected HIV voluntarily should be refused a vaccine because they chose not to wear protection and took risk. You take risk, your fault if it goes wrong.
What if your spouse gave it to them because they were unfaithful?
Should people start protecting themselves from their spouses?

Maybe we should go this form of pleasure: (Not for workplace)


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You go on to say that 1% of people with mutant T-Cells are immune to HIV but previous posts you also mention that due to HIV virus changing its form it's impossible to lock onto a certain "signature" for the antibodies to shoot down the virus.

???

Does that mean that 1% will eventually be gone because sooner or later HIV will have mutated so that even those mutant T-Cells will not be impervious to HIV? Or it could even mean that other percentage of population could become immune to HIV one day?

I believe that one day we can lock onto the general root signature of this HIV virus. There may be many variants, but get the root.

*.hiv
The people who are immune to HIV are immune because the virus cannot stick to their cells to infect it in the first place. They don't have an increased ability to kill the virus, the virus is simply incompatible with their biochemistry. Technically the virus could evolve to infect them as well but that is unlikely. The virus is more likely to evolve to infect the largest number of hosts since that is what will produce the most progeny viruses.

Think of it like a computer virus that requires a certain piece of software or directory to infect. If that critical piece is missing the virus simply can't infect the system.

The HIV virus physically grabs onto certain proteins on the outside of cells. If that protein is missing then the virus cannot infect the cells.

As far as the "root" form of the virus, there are certain targets that people are trying to design drugs against. They are the critical "active sites" of the enzymes that do the critical functions of the virus. It's hard for the virus to adapt these regions of the protein because they are specifically shaped to perform certain tasks. The virus still manages to find ways around the drugs though. It's a tricky little bug...
    
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