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Sooo OS X will no longer run on x86 architecture?

But honestly, who cares about this on OCN?
I do.
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post #172 of 212
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Not in the PC/Windows world. Manufacturers copying some of the physical appearance aspects of Mac books is completely different than switching CPU architectures.

The only industry where Apple holds major clout of what happens next is with smartphones and tablets. Some people would even argue their sway in that market is being diminished (albeit slowly) due to increasing competition from Google and Android.

Just an FYI... Apple had to switch AWAY from PowerPC to x86 and join what PCs had been using for a long time. Software developers are not going to be keen on writing their code for non-x86 machines in the laptop world (arguably Apple's weakest area) to accommodate for a very small percentage of the market.
Oh yes in the PC/Windows world. The Windows 7 taskbar and Aero theme are shameless attempts at the dock & Aqua theme from OS X. Not to mention that once Apple release the Macbook Air, every single computer maker had to create their own version of it, same goes for the iMac way back in 1998 (and companies are STILL trying to copy it).

If you actually look at the Android vs iOS numbers, ever since Verizon got the iPhone, Android's numbers have been slowly shrinking I love Android, but Google is always just playing catch up to Apple. It's almost as if Google is just waiting to see if what Apple does next is successful, then they copy it as opposed to just being revolutionary. If you want proof, go look up what Android looked like before the release of the iPhone, then look at it after.

That isn't really the reason they switched. They switched over to x86 because Motorola and IBM couldn't improve on the PowerPC design anymore and Apple got tired of waiting around for them to have a "breakthrough", so they jumped ship and went to x86.
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Oh yes in the PC/Windows world. The Windows 7 taskbar and Aero theme are shameless attempts at the dock & Aqua theme from OS X. Not to mention that once Apple release the Macbook Air, every single computer maker had to create their own version of it, same goes for the iMac way back in 1998 (and companies are STILL trying to copy it).

If you actually look at the Android vs iOS numbers, ever since Verizon got the iPhone, Android's numbers have been slowly shrinking I love Android, but Google is always just playing catch up to Apple. It's almost as if Google is just waiting to see if what Apple does next is successful, then they copy it as opposed to just being revolutionary. If you want proof, go look up what Android looked like before the release of the iPhone, then look at it after.

That isn't really the reason they switched. They switched over to x86 because Motorola and IBM couldn't improve on the PowerPC design anymore and Apple got tired of waiting around for them to have a "breakthrough", so they jumped ship and went to x86.
I look at it like this: the other companies could do what Apple does, but they're too lazy and wait until Apple does it a lot of the time. They wait for the competition, rather than bring it. I mean, most of what Apple does isn't so much innovation as it is a well-implemented simple idea. Not to bash them... I quite like almost all of their products nowadays, minus their price-performance on graphics cards offerings in desktops.

I wish I could design a laptop for a PC manufacturer so they could finally be successful for once (that's not to say they're not getting rich with what they're doing... I'm just talking about a laptop model that would actually be memorable). All aluminum exterior shell, sleek design... it's not innovation. It's common sense. Seems like Apple is the only company with any common sense when it comes to shell design on computers.
    
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So why is no one noting that if PC's go ARM, that every single program ever made will break? Nearly 30 years of PC software vanished into thin air...
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In case you haven't noticed, whatever Apple says is the next big thing, becomes the next big thing. Apple said that white plastic was in, everyone followed. Apple removed the separate button from the trackpad, everyone is following that trend. Apple then said white plastic was out and that aluminum was in, everyone followed. Apple said that tablets are the future, and well, everyone is following that too.

You guys may hate Apple and think that because they only have a 12% market share, but you can not deny that what they say goes in the tech industry.
Apple went with the Motorola 68000. Not many followed even though it was a better chip than the 8086/8088.
Apple went with PPC. Not many followed.
    
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i want macbook air quad arm for less 500€
     
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If you actually look at the Android vs iOS numbers, ever since Verizon got the iPhone, Android's numbers have been slowly shrinking
That isn't a surprise at all. It would have been a shock if that DIDN'T happen. There were plenty of Verizon customers who wanted an iPhone but were "settling" for Android. The current shrinkage is a short term result of the iPhone arriving onto the second largest carrier. When the dust settles in the long term, the numbers will go back to their old ways (slight increases for Android).

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That isn't really the reason they switched. They switched over to x86 because Motorola and IBM couldn't improve on the PowerPC design anymore and Apple got tired of waiting around for them to have a "breakthrough", so they jumped ship and went to x86.
The actual reasons for the switch are not what's important though. If Apple switches away from x86, not much will change. Sure, Apple will port their native software over. Adobe will probably do the same, as will the companies that produce important media production software for Mac. Aside from that, nil.

Apple drives the industry for look and feel. Not the industry for what's under the hood.
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Sucks for Intel, but at least I can call Macs crap now since I won't have the same brand processor
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Originally Posted by Z Overlord View Post
So why is no one noting that if PC's go ARM, that every single program ever made will break? Nearly 30 years of PC software vanished into thin air...
PCs (Desktops) aren't going ARM any time soon.
ARMs only Real advantage (power efficiency) simply isn't a concern for this market; look at the power consumption of the GPUs and the size of PSUs we use in our systems for example.

As for Laptops, it's not a big deal as the application usage is generally limited & the major software vendors will take care of the conversion process (like Microsoft).
Edited by Trigunflame - 5/8/11 at 4:00pm
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