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yeah why do they like being so weird power pc didn't work out so well towards the end either.
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Poopa, are your GPU drivers up to date?
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Those are just dual cores with hyper-threading. The new SB is a bit faster Still better than my old clunker though.
Shhh... don't make my lappy feel old.
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Wow, I guess this might be possible... especially if Apple designs the OS to really harness GPU power (meaning the CPU doesn't really need to do much).

Future versions of windows can run ARM right? So Apple will still be able to dualboot no? I'd say that would be the biggest hurdle for ARM on an Apple desktop, especially as Apple integrated windows dual boot functionality right into the system natively.

What would a desktop sized ARM chip look like? I can't wait for benchmarks if this is true, I'm sure it will be a very different beast from x8 processors.

Personally, I can't see ARM coming anywhere near Intel's performance. There's only so much performance you can get out of a set piece of silicon, and even with the x86 performance hit, Intel uses billions of dollars a year to tweak every bit of desktop performance out of their silicon. Not to mention Intel is always a process or 2 ahead of the competition, and will have 3d transistors a few years early as well for what it's worth.
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Poopa, are your GPU drivers up to date?
lol, OSX updates them when needed. I'm at 10.6.7. The 8600M doesn't support hardware acceleration which is my biggest problem.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 5/6/11 at 12:43pm
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lol, OSX updates them when needed. I'm at 10.6.7. The 8600M doesn't support hardware acceleration.
That is what I meant. I did not know if you updated. Anyway, I checked and 8 series don't support hardware accelerated videos.
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ARM wont have a chance against intel by supplying APPLE,this manufacturer have a tiny market share .

besides that intel is doing so good damn processors that i see it almost impossible to dethrone it.
First off, ARM the company licenses ARM the instruction set to other companies. ARM the company does not have to compete against Intel.

Intel however would have to compete again Apple, Broadcom, DEC, LG Marvell, Microsoft, Qualcomm, Samsung, Sharp, Texas Instruments, NVIDIA, etc. These are huge companies.

ARM processors are more common than Intel CPUs.

Second, the point is not having the best but having good enough.


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That is what I meant. I did not know if you updated. Anyway, I checked and 8 series don't support hardware accelerated videos.
8-series does support PureVideo 2 though. Not sure about what OS X driver implement though.
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Seems to me that Apple has long been giving up on computers, and not just laptops - because they score most of their cash off of geegaw devices like the iPhone and iPad - products that can't run any actual software. But then again, their target market has changed, and really, Apple was not really into the whole computer scene, but more into canned stuff like iTunes, software for people that don't have any actual computer applications (like databases, CAD, computations, modelling, programming, etc.), but are more than pleased to toss wads of cash for what amounts to an iPod with a 9.7" screen.

Their laptop line has been lagging for years, and they do not have any offerings that are portable (ie. with a 12" screen). But they don't care, because they are scoring their billions, and leaving the world of laptops to companies like Asus, MSI, Acer and etc.

If they go all ARM, then all the power to them, since Apple has long lagged when it comes to processing power, with the exception that they were the first out with the CoreDuo for a few months.
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Seems to me that Apple has long been giving up on computers, and not just laptops - because they score most of their cash off of geegaw devices like the iPhone and iPad - products that can't run any actual software. But then again, their target market has changed, and really, Apple was not really into the whole computer scene, but more into canned stuff like iTunes, software for people that don't have any actual computer applications (like databases, CAD, computations, modelling, programming, etc.), but are more than pleased to toss wads of cash for what amounts to an iPod with a 9.7" screen.

Their laptop line has been lagging for years, and they do not have any offerings that are portable (ie. with a 12" screen). But they don't care, because they are scoring their billions, and leaving the world of laptops to companies like Asus, MSI, Acer and etc.

If they go all ARM, then all the power to them, since Apple has long lagged when it comes to processing power, with the exception that they were the first out with the CoreDuo for a few months.
You're making baseless arguments in the wrong thread. Trying to say Apple only runs worthless apps shows how little you know of computers and their history. Apple was exactly into the computer scene. Who do you think revolutionized the personal computing market? You can do the same things on the iPhone as you can on Android in general. Editing videos and recording music is actual software.

Computations, modeling and programming are exactly what Macs are used for. Go to any University graduate program and look at what most Astronomers or Physicists are using. Are you trying to say Unix is a worthless operating system to program on? As opposed to what? Windows? hahaha Hollywood apparently doesn't do anything meaningful with their Macs either...

Apparently you've never heard of the MBP 13". Mac laptops have been consistently thinner and more portable than the typical PC market laptops for a long time now. They came out with a top of the line mobile SB chip as soon as the recall was fixed as well.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 5/6/11 at 1:13pm
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8-series does support PureVideo 2 though. Not sure about what OS X driver implement though.
According to TUAW, the Macs with 8600M GT don't support GPU accelerated Flash.

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The list below, sourced from Flash's engineers and with clarification from us, shows which models of Mac will be able to take advantage of Flash's new hardware acceleration feature:

- MacBooks shipped after January 21st, 2009. In other words, MacBooks with an NVIDIA GeForce 9400M or higher; Intel's integrated GPUs aren't supported.
- Mac Minis shipped after March 3rd, 2009, which have the same GPU situation as the MacBook; earlier Mac Minis had the unsupported Intel GMA 950 GPU.
- MacBook Pros shipped after October 14th, 2008 -- note that this only means the unibody MacBook Pros. The 17" late 2008 MacBook Pro with the old-style non-unibody enclosure has an unsupported NVIDIA 8600M GT GPU.
- iMacs which shipped after the first quarter of 2009; again, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M or higher GPU.
I have an 8600M GT equivalent in one of my older Core 2 Duo ThinkPads. It does not really support GPU accelerated Flash very well either (CPU usage in the 50 percent range).
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