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(Disclaimer: General hardware was the best forum i could find for this)
I own an iMAC today, what i like about is that there is no cable clutter and i think it's a pretty decent compromise between noise and performance. Building a PC with same goals in mind, i want decent performance with as little noise as possible and a small case. (Not looking to do any modding if i can avoid it)

So far my rig is:
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 570 WindforceX3
OCZ 120gb SSD Vertex 3
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD5-B3
Intel Core i7 2600K
Corsair AX850W
Kingston HyperX 16GB 1600MHz DDR3
Lian LI PC-A05NB
Corsair H70 Hydro series


About my choices:
-I have read that the Lian Li A05NB is silent, and the smallest ATX case.
-ATX850 PSU because i plan to run SLI in the future.
-GTX570 WindforceX3, it was a throw up between it and a Twin Frozr II. Both are silent.
-Kingston HyperX, went with the Pc12800 because of lower cost and minimal performancegain from PC17000.
-Corsair H70, i went with that one instead of Noctua NH-D14 because of space and weight. I imagine it would perform alot worse then it does in a bigger case, i could be wrong.

Questions:
-Should i get 3 120mm Gentle Typhoons, 2 for the H70/intake and one for the outlet? Would that lower noise and temperatures? What RPM fans do i need for that, is 800 or 1150 rpm enough?
-Is the Windforcex3/Twin Frozr II a decent pick if i want to run SLI in the future using the same case? I feels like a DirectCU II would have been the optimal choice since it seems it is designed to push air _out_ of the box, but the small case can't fit two DirectCU II's for SLI.
-Also, the GPU will be running a DELL u2711 in games so it's alot of pixels to push. Will it be ok?

Did i make any glaring misstakes here? Any thoughts?
Edited by exxplicit - 5/6/11 at 10:47am
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Since this is your first post, Welcome to OCN!!

Looks like a fairly solid build, the largest glaring thing would be the 16GB of memory. Most users don't use more than 4GB, if you want to go overkill grab 8GB.

Gentle Typhoons will be great for low noise and good temperatures, the 800rpm ones would be fine, but I would personally go with the 1150 and put them on a controller if you feel they are a bit too loud.

With a small case you want to really go with a rear exhausting GPU, especially if you decide to go multi-gpu. You would be better off going with something that has the stock cooling on it as they are fairly quiet and exhaust air out the back (something that aftermarket coolers don't do) With a small case, if it doesn't exhaust out the back, the air sits in the case and heats up the rest of your components. It is compounded when you go multi-gpu as your adding more heat, and suffocating the top GPU.

Last if youre just doing gaming, save the $100 and grab a 2500K - it will give you a good overclock and be more than enough to handle two 570's.
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i would recommend non-reference Asus DCII model GTX 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121432

I have heard of too many problems with that RAM and is why most will also recommend G Skill.

As long as the D14 will fit in the case it will perform better, if space is an issue then yeah grab the Corsair.

It depends on what your doing with your system...that will determine the need for your RAM amount and the i7-2600k. If your doing nothing but gaming then the suggestion to drop down to a i5-2500k may be valid. Only you can make that determination. A lot of encoding, designing, editing the 2600k is your better option.


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If you will be running into issues fitting 2 DCII 570's then I would recommend going with EVGA for the lifetime warranty.


EDIT 2
FYI I think you may find this interesting with regards to memory. http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...ing-p67-3.html
Edited by bratas - 5/6/11 at 1:08pm
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Thanks for the welcome and feedback, much appriciated;D

Memory
I agree 16gb is overkill and will tone it down to 8gb. But the computer will be used for some Reason 5.0/music aswell, do you think 8gb is still enough?

Also About the G.skill memory, i don't actually plan on buying from newegg as i live in Norway and i couldn't really find any retailers. Should i steer away from Kingston and go for crucial instead or something?

Question: I just read (thx for the link) that sandy bridge architecture supports 3-band memory configurations but my motherboard only lists dualband. If i wanted to use triband, do i have to get only 3 strips of memory or is 4 still ok?

EDIT: Mushkin redline Ridgeback or Mushkin Redline frostbyte?

GPU
The part about rear exhausting GPU i had read beforehand, but i really couldn't tell how much they exaust from the back with their custom fans. For instance, the DCII looks like it still mainly blows air out the back - but i couldn't fit two of those in the small case should i want SLI in the future.

About the EVGA, all i can find is the GTX 570 superclocked version - which seems abit on the loud side as far as dB is concerned. But i suppose it is my only choice if i want the reference cooler, most stores in Norway have stopped taking in any of the "non" overclocked versions and every other manifacturer uses a non reference cooler. (which doesn't really blow the hot air out the back).

CPU
Will go with the 2500K, thanks for catching that one. Was abit steep to pay $1 per mhz to go from 3,2 to 3,3.

Fans/CPU cooling
After googling abit it seems that others are using the D14 in combination with the Lian LI A05NB case. My intuitive feeling is that the D14 will increase the temperature for my GPU, because it would catch all the air coming in from the rear intake and blow it directly to the outlet in the front - leaving the GPU fan without a stream of cold air?
(I made a picture on imageshack)

I'll invest in the Gentle typhoon fans to replace the stock fans on the Lian LI case/the Corsair H70 if i get that. Seems the D14 has good enough fans that they don't need replacing, if you people think i should opt to get the D14 instead of the corsair for the small case.

Question: Seems most cases are designed to produce positive pressure to minimize dust etc. Should i perhaps buy a lower speed fan for the outlet in the front? Seems i would get a negative pressure if i have two fans at equal speed blowing in/out and then the GPU to tip the scale into the negative.

Also. Is there any other tibits i should really get to make the build better?
-Do i need noise reduction padding for this case?
-Does it need more anti vibration stuff?
-Should i/is it possible to get some filters for the fans?

Thanks for all the help by the way, two posts and i have already saved money _and_ improved the build. Appriciate it!
Edited by exxplicit - 5/7/11 at 7:54am
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Originally Posted by exxplicit View Post
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Will go with the 2500K, thanks for catching that one. Was abit steep to pay $1 per mhz to go from 3,2 to 3,3.
Sorry, I didn't really have time to read more but let me clarify one thing; what you're paying for in 2600k is the Hyper-Threading feature which can add 4 "emulated" cores, further called 'threads' to your 4 real ones.
These extra threads run at approximately half the speed of true cores and can provide great benefits as long as you can actually utilize them, otherwise they're going to be mostly a drawback - increased heat, sometimes decreased single-threaded performance or wasted money if you choose to switch them off.

Regarding the GPU: I'd strongly suggest going for non-reference GTX 570/580 such as ASUS DirectCU II, MSI TwinFrozr II etc. as reference versions are/were known for some sketchy VRMs (there are stories of 570's dying due to cheapo VRMs).
The issue of dumping heat into case can be more or less resolved proper airflow, I own a 570 DirectCU II and I haven't experienced any problems with excessive heat being exhausted into case.
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Sorry, I didn't really have time to read more but let me clarify one thing; what you're paying for in 2600k is the Hyper-Threading feature which can add 4 "emulated" cores, further called 'threads' to your 4 real ones.
These extra threads run at approximately half the speed of true cores and can provide great benefits as long as you can actually utilize them, otherwise they're going to be mostly a drawback - increased heat, sometimes decreased single-threaded performance or wasted money if you choose to switch them off.

Regarding the GPU: I'd strongly suggest going for non-reference GTX 570/580 such as ASUS DirectCU II, MSI TwinFrozr II etc. as reference versions are/were known for some sketchy VRMs (there are stories of 570's dying due to cheapo VRMs).
The issue of dumping heat into case can be more or less resolved proper airflow, I own a 570 DirectCU II and I haven't experienced any problems with excessive heat being exhausted into case.
Ye, sry for the wall of text before - will try to keep it short:
My Lian Li A05NB can't house 2x ASUS DirectCU II, but yes - that card would be perfect if it did, judging by the picture it seems designed to push the air out the back.

The MSI TwinFrozr II and Gigabyte WindforceX3 don't have the same "housing" around their fans/heatsink so it seems the air would just disperse inside the case and cause the overall temperature to go up by alot. Proper airflow would probably mean i'd have to mod the case.

Anyone have experience with TwinFrozr II or windforcex3 in a unmodded Lian Li A05NB?
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