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2/26/12 at 6:59pm
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The people who bought completes are the ones who got the plugs. For folks who never want to learn to do basic electrical stuff, if they bought complete fans they will be OK. If they bought barebones fans, they will have to learn something.

 

At minimum, you can get insulated crimp butt connectors and 3-wire fan headers. That might work. But do remember that the wire is 24 gauge and the connector only goes down to 22 gauge. So you need to finish up the crimp with a hammer.

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2/26/12 at 10:55pm
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Without question I would have ordered the "bare-bones" instead of the completes if it had been known that they would both have the tach wire. I'm going to replace the connectors later this year anyway when I resleeve everything.
Nothing to be done about it now of course but it's yet another example of the poor communication that has plagued this whole endeavor (until the last few days that is thumb.gif)

agreed, nothing to be done now tho i think it's a safe assume that most of the 'complete' owners (at least those who've spent more than 5 mins inside a PC case & can handle wire chopping), are pretty annoyed.
luckily i have no urgent need for these fans any more, picked up NB/YL fans for my case build months ago. still like to get the fans tho.

at this point i hope FTW just signs the fans over to jim @ caselabs (assuming he wants to deal with this headache, don't blame him for not wanting to inherit this mess) as he seems to firm grasp on how to package & ship at this point i won't attempt to mess with my order by parting my fans onto others. can only imagine how much more work has been created by those altering shipping info.

i recon those that want to resell their fans should wait till they have them and organise the resale/shipping on their end.
in fact i just want to pay my shipping so i can forget about this till the fans turn up at my door.
no offence to those that have posted in this thread, i'm sick of coming here and sorting thru the new posts. this thread is becoming 'HUGE' and i've read every post (forgotten most of it tho) since it was created 6mths ago.
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2/26/12 at 11:32pm
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Originally Posted by SaltwaterCooled View Post
Is there anyone (other than complete buyers who are now bitter that they paid $4 more for the same fan) that is actually upset that the people (like me) who ordered barebones fans got tach's on our fans and didn't get the connectors?

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Considering this isn't what we paid for, I am NOT ok with this.



I would have gotten the barebones if i had known. Makes sleeving a little easier, and still saves at least 20% after paying for the materials(assuming i have the tools).

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2/27/12 at 2:47am
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And that's what came, whether we like it or not.
Is there anyone (other than complete buyers who are now bitter that they paid $4 more for the same fan) that is actually upset that the people (like me) who ordered barebones fans got tach's on our fans and didn't get the connectors? Seriously? 3 pin connectors and pins, ~$5 total vs tach sensor and wires, a lot more than $5. What's wrong with that other than having to crimp on your own pins... I'll take it every day of the week. Makes the wait almost worthwhile :D


Not me. The trouble I have with the wires is removing the insulation. I tried to sleeve a fan once and couldn't get the insulation off without also removing a mass of wires.

I tried wire-strippers and that didn't work. I tried to melt some of the insulation and then pull it off. That also didn't work.

I had my father try it. He worked with a local telephone company almost his entire life, from stringing cable, to cable repair and troubleshooting. I've laid down on the street, watching him splicing hundreds of wires while working at the bottom of a man-hole. He couldn't do anything with these small fan wires. He tried stripping them exactly the same way I've watched him stripping those telephone wires, with no luck at all. Back when he was still working, telephone wires used almost pure copper that wasn't the least bit brittle. I don't know the composition of the wires today, but they definitely aren't the same material that was used back then. They're brittle and break far too easily.

If the connectors crimp on, through the insulation, then I'd have no trouble with bare wire fans at all. I'd also start sleeving all of my cables.

Besides that, I wanted the tach-sensors. I also wanted to be able to plug the fans in immediately and see if they worked properly. I didn't want to wonder if I screwed up the connectors myself or if the fans, if they didn't work, were the problem.

Everybody says these fans are already quite cheap even with the connectors. No. I don't have any problem with the extra cost.

BUT, who's gonna replace any fans that don't work? There will be some, you know? So who covers RMA's?

 

 

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2/27/12 at 3:17am
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agreed, nothing to be done now tho i think it's a safe assume that most of the 'complete' owners (at least those who've spent more than 5 mins inside a PC case & can handle wire chopping), are pretty annoyed.
luckily i have no urgent need for these fans any more, picked up NB/YL fans for my case build months ago. still like to get the fans tho.
at this point i hope FTW just signs the fans over to jim @ caselabs (assuming he wants to deal with this headache, don't blame him for not wanting to inherit this mess) as he seems to firm grasp on how to package & ship. at this point i won't attempt to mess with my order by parting my fans onto others. can only imagine how much more work has been created by those altering shipping info.
i recon those that want to resell their fans should wait till they have them and organise the resale/shipping on their end.
in fact i just want to pay my shipping so i can forget about this till the fans turn up at my door.
no offence to those that have posted in this thread, i'm sick of coming here and sorting thru the new posts. this thread is becoming 'HUGE' and i've read every post (forgotten most of it tho) since it was created 6mths ago.

I also have read each post, it's becoming a ton of posts biggrin.gif
But some here don't pay attention at all, unfortunately. If they did, there would been less complaining rolleyes.gif


I have bought a crimper, pins and connectors from ebay. Free shipping goes a long way smile.gif 26-16 AWG might be more practical than 30-18 AWG? I have crimped a lot of RJ plugs in my time, so I should have a grasp on how to crimp these pins, and to perhaps determine if it is good or not smile.gif

Learning to crimp stuff is useful, like making a specific length of network cable for example, put on those network plug protectors or color organize cables.
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How many here haven't experienced the PnP (Plug and Pray) times?
Like mentioned before, this is a computer enthusiast forum, there can't be that many here that never have build't their own computer for example, we come here to learn and discuss about computers for the most part rolleyes.gif

Who doesn't want to know how to fix these damn molex connectors (4 pin)? Many of them are in so poor quality the pins break straight away or are really difficult to plug into or unplug from each other. There are many plugs I want to change into Easy Grip molex connectors.
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2/27/12 at 6:07am
The butthurt over the missing connectors on a hardware enthusiast forum is just hilarious.

BRING ON THE FANS!
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2/27/12 at 6:32am
I agree here. Puttng on connects/pins is a skill anyone who wants to build a computer should learn.
A complaint on OCN that a bunch of GTs have no fan connectors is tantamount to complaining that your brand new Ferrari has a radio tuned in the wrong station.
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2/27/12 at 11:00am
I have a question....

I have ordered complete fans and sleeving for them as well...
Will this sleeving still be done? I hope so...

If not, then I feel that I've been ripped off (no offense intended), because it adds a fair amount of money, considering the amount of total 30 fans...
I hope someone can confirm/get back to me on this...

Mort can you perhaps confirm?
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2/27/12 at 12:22pm
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Who doesn't want to know how to fix these damn molex connectors (4 pin)? Many of them are in so poor quality the pins break straight away or are really difficult to plug into or unplug from each other. There are many plugs I want to change into Easy Grip molex connectors.
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They make molex connectors that don't suck? Seriously, there are a few that I would love to fix. You make a good point there.
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2/28/12 at 12:37am
I take it there is still movement on these fans? So long as I get my 6 completes, paid for inc. shipping to the UK I'll be happy to wait a bit longer. Maybe not that happy but I'll chalk up the issues/delays to experience. Fingers crossed it all finally works out:)
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