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Is anybody else here counting on graphene transistors?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphen...ne_transistors


Also, after we get more raw power, we need much higher resolution displays for photorealism. I'm wondering what 4800p in a 23" display would look like .
Too high of a res for such a small screen, that's the problems they are having with UHD. It starts to look ugly.
    
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2015? Huh this would be a very interesting year in PC technology.
10nm processors and now this.. meow
    
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"No way" - why ? We are going to be at 28nm this year already. We might well be at 20nm by the middle of 2013.
I said no way to us hitting those marks at 20nm.

Secondly, we are 20 months into 40nm ramp up, at minimum we're going over 2 years on the cycle. TSMC is stating that they're ahead of schedule with 4th quarter ramp ups likely, which puts ramp to ramp at 27months. If the same schedule is kept for the next two ramp ups we won't see 14/16nm until 2016. Thus the statement, he's predicting 2015 16nm.
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This sounds like those people who said we'd be living on the moon in colonies by the year 2000. It's an ambitious prediction that will never happen. It takes 18 months for graphics power to double.
gtx 580~5 monthes ago or something lol 100percent
13 months from now to make 18...
6/ 2012 -200 percent
12/2013 -400 percent (yes thats how doubling works)
6/2014 - 800percent....
so 18months doubling is probably what hes using
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Gotta love the people that think we wont have "photo" realistic graphics soon. Most movies now have that and only take a small farm to render. I remember when Toy Story came out and took a HUGE rendering farm to produce it....our graphics cards today are x fold better than those entire farms.

Food for thought...

Have a look at this in regards to AVATAR.

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The 10,000 square foot server farm manages thousands of work orders and a serious amount of data.
The Weta data center got a major hardware refresh and redesign in 2008 and now uses more than 4,000 HP BL2x220c blades, 10 Gigabit Ethernet networking gear from Foundry and storage from BluArc and NetApp. The system now occupies spot 193 through 197 in the Top 500 list of the most powerful supercomputers.

More Info HERE .

Maybe it is just me but 10,000 square foot (929 m2) isn't that bloody small, also more than 4000 computers, 40,000 CPU's. Our graphics cards are so capable of that.



Also in regards to "toy story"

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"Toy Story" is also something of a coup for Sun Microsystems. The movie's
final image rendering was accomplished on a "farm" of 87 dual-processor and
30 quad-processor 100-MHz SPARCstation 20s (about $2000 ea)
HERE
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You want photo-realistic graphics, physics, lighting, etc, across large displays such as Eyefinity and Nvidia Surround resolutions? I KNOW THAT I DO!!!

However, I'll see you in future on that one, mate.

Aye.
    
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Source.


A few days ago I was thinking when would it be feasible to have photo-realistic games. We're close. Assuming the core count doubles every year, we should be getting around 60fps by 2015. But since we've had a few hiccups in the recent years, I have my doubts. Anyway, even so, with SLI / Crossfire, it should be within reach in that time frame.

increasing fps wont go with adding double the gpu's power ... it doesnt scale like that


its with the architecture and how much instruction it can process and what sort of instruction are easier to process etc....


just like a cpu ... but gpu's are designed to process more ... a good 30% increase per new real generation of hardware isnt too hard to dream off .. but not 100% ....


unless they use 3d transistors ... or even other techniques to get the most out of silicon ...


spintronics maybe ????
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increasing fps wont go with adding double the gpu's power ... it doesnt scale like that


its with the architecture and how much instruction it can process and what sort of instruction are easier to process etc....


just like a cpu ... but gpu's are designed to process more ... a good 30% increase per new real generation of hardware isnt too hard to dream off .. but not 100% ....


unless they use 3d transistors ... or even other techniques to get the most out of silicon ...


spintronics maybe ????

Who know what they are currently working on. All I know is that the math does not lie - if what they said in the conference is true about getting 30-60 fps by 2015, then they are planning on major performance enhancements. I'm still waiting to see what a properly DX11 optimized game using all the features can do with current hardware. Multi-threading is here, and SLI and Crossfire also got better with time (specially Crossfire, which everybody is praising now), so anything is possible. I actually trust this kind of previews in respect to GPU's more than with CPU's, since it's much easier to leverage the processing power in a GPU than it is to use multiple cores in a CPU.
 
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Rejoice!

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I think you guys are debating about the wrong question here. The real question, in my opinion, is when game developing companies will decide to take advantage of the hardware. We see that as of today there are very few games that maximize our current hardware's potential. We can have all the processing power we want, but until it's taken advantage of, it won't matter.
 
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