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Originally Posted by Cheetos316 View Post
True, but what happens when ARM finally gets fabbed on tri-gate?
won't happen for at least 3 years.
by that time, intel may have a good lineup of phone x86 chips, with their aggressive marketing and highly rated brand name, they will probably do very well with "intel inside" of phones... enough perhaps to make ARM less competitive.
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post #12 of 192
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AMD was screwed long ago if i recall correctly, by continuously modifying the same old architecture!
intel did it to with netburst but, with intel they used for things like low end and mobile CPUs.
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intel did it to with netburst but, with intel they used for things like low end and mobile CPUs.
From what I remember AMD used VIA for chipset and killed AMD performance.
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post #14 of 192
There's already a thread devoted to the 22nm and a totally separate thread devoted to the 3d transistor.

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...vy-bridge.html

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...roduce-3d.html
    
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I was solid on Bulldozer but now I'm thinking about jumping the boat again and pushing my build to next year. First delay but worth it. Jumping from Intel to AMD and back to Intel. Hmmm...I hate to do that but I'll always respect AMD's graphics until they get screwed by Kepler, then I'll jump again for my next build.
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You gotta remember, Intel ahs to pay a 64-bit license for every single processor they sell
    
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Ivygate in superphones?
    
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post #19 of 192
I wonder... Will this technology make it into Sandy Bridge-E?

Probably not.
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Intel has done nothing to encourage a break up, and intel already owns 80% of the cpu marketshare. The way breaking up of monopolies happens is that it is only done if the company A. Does something illegal or B. Does something that is blatantly anti competitive in nature. Intel has done neither of these things and holds such a large market share purely because they have been making better products than the competition.
Nothing illegal? Are you kidding me?

*cough* http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33882559

*cough* http://www.antitrustlawyerblog.com/2...ues_intel.html

There's your precious overlord in action. By the way AMD deserved more than the 1.25 Billion USD they settled for, but they couldn't afford to put up a long trial. I remember reading about the Federal Trade Commission turning around and suing Intel the moment AMD settled. It was music to my ears.

And don't feed us that better product garbage. As consumers you should be angered with Intel for developing the **** that it had been developing when they've recently proved that they were more than capable of producing competitive products. They chose to instead produce garbage that AMD walked all over.

Ever since the Kryptonite-II was released in 1998 AMD was better in every way and at a more reasonable price. AMD beat Intel to the 1.0GHz barrier and when Intel caught up, AMD's product was still better. AMD was the first to bring 64-bit processing to desktops. AMD was the first to abandon the FSB and was the first to utilize an integrated memory controller. When Intel caught wind of AMD's revolutionary Dual-Core processor, they rushed together a shoddy Pentium-D that was just two single cores communicating through the FSB so they could release it first. They only released it four days before AMD and AMD stomped it to the ground at, again, a much more reasonable price.

You can chalk it up to fanboyism, but Intel is one of the most disgusting corporations that I can think of. The only ones worse--off the top of my head--being insurance companies and banks. As for AMD? Well, I'm not so naive to think that any corporation is the consumers friend, but since VIA was snuffed out, they aren't going to offer much competition to Intel and AMD just happens to exceed my needs at a better price.


I'm also not so naive to think that anyone actually reads entire posts, but I just thought I'd just remind people of those "legal" things that Intel has been doing.



Back on topic: AMD and IBM are also developing 3D transistors and since AMD was the first to get to 22nm, I don't think this spells the end for them.
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