Originally Posted by dodger.blue
AMD may have been re-releasing 2008 CPU's, but again, they are doing so at a reasonable price. Note that because the FTC is all up in Intel's business, Intel has to sell Sandy Bridge at a reasonable price or else they couldn't compete with AMD, so you have it backwards.
I think you've skewed your idea of what's "reasonable". Intel could still compete with AMD if most of its Sandy Bridge processors were 20% higher in price, especially the K series ones, because they're significantly better performers. Heck, Intel is still selling years old processors at $250+ on more expensive chipsets (X58) and still outselling AMD in the high end by a wide margin. Intel doesn't HAVE
to sell its processors so cheap because of the FTC, it simply has to refrain from its shady lock-in/penalties/benefits package when negotiating distribution deals with the likes of Dell.
Finally, yes, I am mad because you can't blame AMD for not having the funds that they should rightfully have to put into R&D that Intel, by all rights, should not have. Intel made shoddy processors and yet they were rewarded for doing so. AMD made superior products and yet got nothing out of it. What a world we live in.
Shoddy processor? Which one? AMD's CPU department hasn't made a (comparatively) superior CPU since Intel got a little too ambitious and tried to do too many new things at once with the P4. (Nehalem, Westmere and Sandybridge were essentially gradual evolutions towards what the P4 was meant to be). Sounds to me like you're mad because intel is pushing all this new technology, requiring people to upgrade motherboards and CPU's (which in turn is making them quite a profit), and successful in doing so because AMD has failed to innovate time and time again, resulting in consumers seeing the added expense as worth it.
Unfortuantely I seriously doubt Bulldozer (in its initial iteration) will compete with intel sandy bridge, much less ivy bridge, and I dont see a single processor in their lineup that is even poised to take on the lowest end offerings of Sandy Bridge E. AMD's graphics department is keeping them afloat. Hopefully bulldozer is competitive enough, and the the GPU's remain strong enough that Bulldozer, round 2 will actually offer up something compelling. At least they're trying, but they have no one to blame but themselves for where they are.
EDIT However, given the current market, I think the real battle is at the low end, not the high end. Zacate, Atom, CULV and (ultra) mobile CPU's etc is where the true competition will be. Whether or not they can get a respectable profit margin off of them depends on whether or not they (AMD or intel) can create a compelling competitor to ARM.Edited by TheSprunk - 5/7/11 at 2:19pm