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Originally Posted by B!0HaZard;13416265 
I've been mad at Creative for their crappy driver support, but I'm ready to give them a try if necessary. I've heard a lot about problems with the DX in BC2 which worries me. How would I avoid that if I picked the Asus?

I'm using the DX and haven't ever had problems in BC2.
Drivers may cause you some grief in other areas, so (assuming you buy the DX) head here if that is the case.

You seem to have dismissed the Logitech G930/G35, and it should stay that way. Lamentable sound quality, but decent mic though.
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Originally Posted by Tetsuma;13416435 
I'm using the DX and haven't ever had problems in BC2.
Drivers may cause you some grief in other areas, so (assuming you buy the DX) head here if that is the case.

You seem to have dismissed the Logitech G930/G35, and it should stay that way. Lamentable sound quality, but decent mic though.

What do the drivers do?
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After 2 years of waiting for a proper driver from ASUS, I decided to take the matters in my own hands and make the fixes myself. I’m talking mostly about the 5.1 stereo upmix issue & an up to date driver for my Xonar DX. It should work for everyone else, but I can’t guarantee it, so please submit your feedback (good or bad) via comments or by e-mail. Also I made a unified driver so everyone can update to the last driver version. No more waiting 6 months+ (Ds,D2,D2X owners) and all that for a broken driver. Personally I don’t know what those monkey coders at Asus and C-Media are doing. Maybe someone should ratio their bananas.

The 5.1 stereo upmix issue was created by Asus Dev Team, the C-Media Devs did it right with original drivers. But C-Media is not innocent, besides being always too late to the party, DPC latency sky rocks when using any of they’re poor coded audio functions(see fixes for Uni Xonar low DPC latency driver)

And further down the page:
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UNi Xonar Features

Unified Xonar driver for all Asus Xonar Cards: DG,DS, D1 ,D2, DX,D2X, HDAV,HDAV Slim, ST, STX, XENSE – Except U1 , this means you don’t have to wait months or years for Asus to release (the already old) new driver version for your specific Xonar model.
Fixed 5.1 stereo upmix issue, stereo sounds won’t be upmixed to 5.1,7.1 or 4.0 anymore (stereo is played in 2.0, surround is played in 5.1) -since v1.0
Updated OpenAL 2.0.4 to 2.1.0 (for everyone how uses the GX function) -since v1.0
Fixed the Rear and Center channel delays which where enabled by default are now disabled. This fixes the strange annoying reverb that people hear with 5.1 headphones. This also offers a more “responsive” 5.1 sound experience, regardless if you are using speakers or headphones. -since v1.20
Fixes and improvements through three different versions of the driver. See the table below
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post #14 of 30
If BC2 is your priority, then go with Creative. Asus just doesn't handle BC2 well.

If you're into other games like Black Ops MW2 etc with good sound engines, then you can go for the DX.
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Originally Posted by Simca;13430082 
If BC2 is your priority, then go with Creative. Asus just doesn't handle BC2 well.

If you're into other games like Black Ops MW2 etc with good sound engines, then you can go for the DX.

I have never had a problem in BC2 not once nor any other games for that matter.
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post #16 of 30
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I have never had a problem in BC2 not once nor any other games for that matter.

There's a difference between "Problem" and "great sound positioning."

In MW2 you have spectacular sound positioning with the Asus card.

In BC2 you have atrociously bad sound positioning to the point where I can't hear footsteps until I've already been knifed or gunned down. I have no idea where bullets are coming from etc.

Does the sound sound bad? No, I just can't tell where anything is coming from.
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Originally Posted by Simca;13430414 
There's a difference between "Problem" and "great sound positioning."

In MW2 you have spectacular sound positioning with the Asus card.

In BC2 you have atrociously bad sound positioning to the point where I can't hear footsteps until I've already been knifed or gunned down. I have no idea where bullets are coming from etc.

Does the sound sound bad? No, I just can't tell where anything is coming from.

BF3 is a huge priority and gaming in general is more important than music, so I'm still leaning towards Creative... Is the Creative better in COD?
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Bump, still no ideas for headsets.
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Unless the game is built specifically to provide excellent positional audio over 2.0 headphones (there are not many that do) Creative's CMSS-3D on the X-Fi is better than Dolby Headphone for mixing surround sources with HRTFs over 2.0 headphones, at least for gaming.

Even though I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that BF3 is supposed to innovate with its sound engine for headphone positional audio, if games are a priority I'd still stick with an X-Fi card unless you're going to be playing BF3 exclusively (although I wouldn't go for an ASUS card unless I could verify what I think I'm remembering about BF3 sound to be true)

Can you get the Audio Technica ATH-AD700's? They can be found for under $100 here in the states, and they're supposed to be amongst the best at providing superior sound positioning for gaming. They're not a headset so you'd need a clip-on mic.
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My sons just got a pair of Samson SR850 for $50.
Well made and comfortable, with great sound, picking up Zalmen mics later if they need it.
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