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Here's what I'm looking at:

HD555's
Asus Xonar DG

This will really be my first experience with any quality audio, so I don't want to blow the money and not be able to hear a difference. So is this a good all around starter setup? Or is there something better I should be buying.
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Go get it already.
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Don't buy the DG. The ALC889a on your mobo will be just as good. This is me being serious.



Also, spend $6 more dollas and get ad700s. This is just my opinion.
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Don't buy the DG. The ALC889a on your mobo will be just as good. This is me being serious.
Oh rly...

RMAA ALC889A @ 24 bit, 48kHz (I hate this when testers use that, I can see the reasoning, but it's flawed as it's not 'real life').

Quote:
Frequency response (from 40 Hz to 15 kHz), dB: +0.01, -0.02 - Excellent
Noise level, dB (A): -87.9 - Good
Dynamic range, dB (A): 87.8 - Good
THD, %: 0.0045 - Very good
THD + Noise, dB (A): -80.3 -Good
IMD + Noise, %: 0.012 - Very good
Stereo crosstalk, dB: -87.0 - Excellent
IMD at 10 kHz, %: 0.012 - Very good
General performance: Very good
bolded the ones that actually mean something. Any stereo crosstalk below -30.0 dB is fine so really tbh, stereo crosstalk is non-issue thing these days.

vs. Xonar DG @ same benchmark settings



.0047% distortion = -86.56 dB (2dp) (the lower the better)
.012% distortion = -78.42 dB (2dp)

8 Db = highly noticeable. dB is logarithmic so that equates to about 2.55 times better sound quality. However it depends on whether you listen to music that is of somewhat high dynamic range + the quality of your sound equipment.

This is just comparing the DAC, not the drivers (which can affects sound quality) nor the surround sound DSPs that come with the Xonar DG + headphone amp.
post #5 of 17
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Don't buy the DG. The ALC889a on your mobo will be just as good. This is me being serious.
Where do you get this stuff from? There's countless reviews and other users here (including Simca) disagreeing and saying there's a night and day difference.

I asked a friend earlier (he has a p8p67 Deluxe) what the difference was between the onboard and the Asus Xonar DX and he said it's remarkable.

Taken from Simca's thread

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You will see MORE out of a sound card + low budget headphones than high budget headphones and no sound card or no external DAC.
post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by cuad View Post
Don't buy the DG. The ALC889a on your mobo will be just as good. This is me being serious.
man are you serious

i DO have the ALC889 and it`s VERY lame comparing it with any devoted Sound Card and chinesekiwi said it all

and since you are going to use a headset then the Headphone AMP will really make some difference
    
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post #7 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post
Oh rly...

RMAA ALC889A @ 24 bit, 48kHz (I hate this when testers use that, I can see the reasoning, but it's flawed as it's not 'real life').



bolded the ones that actually mean something. Any stereo crosstalk below -30.0 dB is fine so really tbh, stereo crosstalk is non-issue thing these days.

vs. Xonar DG @ same benchmark settings



.0047% distortion = -86.56 dB (2dp) (the lower the better)
.012% distortion = -78.42 dB (2dp)

8 Db = highly noticeable. dB is logarithmic so that equates to about 2.55 times better sound quality. However it depends on whether you listen to music that is of somewhat high dynamic range + the quality of your sound equipment.

This is just comparing the DAC, not the drivers (which can affects sound quality) nor the surround sound DSPs that come with the Xonar DG + headphone amp.
he doesn't need an amp for the 555s. I don't want to hear about those dolby digital craps. i'm not convinced that distorting music makes it sound better. finally, very good and excellent. what's the difference?

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Where do you get this stuff from? There's countless reviews and other users here (including Simca) disagreeing and saying there's a night and day difference.
actual experience. and i'm betting they're not claiming night and day difference between a DG and ALC889, because as kiwi's post points out, there is none. anyone who does claim that is, again, using another gimmicky EQ setting that is distorting their music, whereas i'm about fidelity to the source.

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I asked a friend earlier (he has a p8p67 Deluxe) what the difference was between the onboard and the Asus Xonar DX and he said it's remarkable.
ask him what settings he was using. whether he was using headphones or not, and what headphones.

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You will see MORE out of a sound card + low budget headphones than high budget headphones and no sound card or no external DAC.
That's too vague to mean anything, and he knows it.
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post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by cuad View Post
actual experience. and i'm betting they're not claiming night and day difference between a DG and ALC889, because as kiwi's post points out, there is none..
uh.....it means the opposite. Our ears are very sensitive to IM(D). 8 dB is very significant. dB (like most physics calculations) is not linear. The differences get bigger the larger the numbers. e.g. there is a much bigger difference between 70 to 80 dB than 20 to 30 dB.
post #9 of 17
Kiwi, nice work on digging up those numbers. However, I must question pureoverclock's methodology. I for one, like RightMark, but there are quite a number of limitations to it. I won't go into detail of what those are, but onboard sound has quite a few disadvantages (such as eletrical noise due to the crappy Realtek CODEC chip) when it comes to testing with Rightmark.
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Thanks for all the help guys, I think I'm gonna stick with the DG and see if I can hear the difference myself (It's only $30).

Headphone wise I'll take a second look at the 700's before I buy.
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