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The NZXT beta evo is $55 with a $10 mir and $10 s&H, so basically $55 (if you get your rebate). This Coolermaster 430 looks very similar and is $50 shipped (no rebates)
here in UK we dont do rebates, also, the shipping will be free

Update on components, lol

motherboard: while it's not this as such
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Foxconn A88GM Deluxe AM3 $65 (HD4250 is much better that HD3000 onboard.)
think this is a close thing though, as i couldn't find the foxconn one...
MSI 880GM-E41 880G Socket AM3 onboard graphics 8 channel HD audio mATX Motherboard with Graphics ControllerATI Radeon HD 4250 Shared Video Memory (UMA)

PSU: Antec 450W PSU - 120mm Fan VP450 4x SATA 1x PCI-E

I think this would be better, yes ?
Edited by mogg - 5/8/11 at 7:46am
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Naturally I will put up build and pics too
but will have to bare with me, as this will be my first
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here in UK we dont do rebates, also, the shipping will be free

Update on components, lol

motherboard: while it's not this as such

think this is a close thing though, as i couldn't find the foxconn one...
MSI 880GM-E41 880G Socket AM3 onboard graphics 8 channel HD audio mATX Motherboard with Graphics ControllerATI Radeon HD 4250 Shared Video Memory (UMA)

PSU: Antec 450W PSU - 120mm Fan VP450 4x SATA 1x PCI-E

I think this would be better, yes ?
Same chipset yes, but the Foxconn has 4+1 power phase with a heatsink. The 880 chipset will work great for your purposes, but try to stick with Asus or Gigabyte. I didn't realize you weren't in the US. Post us a site that you are looking for parts so we can see what they have and better advise you.
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Same chipset yes, but the Foxconn has 4+1 power phase with a heatsink. I didn't realize you weren't in the US. Post us a site that you are looking for parts so we can see what they have and better advise you.
what is the 4+1?
also for the components, I am looking at this place :
http://www.ebuyer.com
kinda similar to your egg site i think
also, i was warned off from asus, as being a bit touch and go when you get one...
though of course this might have changed since
Asus M4A88T-M 880G Socket AM3 Onboard Graphics 8 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard deal, with Kingston Ddr3 2gb 1333mhz/pc3-10666 Memory Non-ecc Cl9 £67.70
and this really is my limit here
thanks for looking and appreciate all of your help...
this has been kinda fun
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what is the 4+1?
also for the components, I am looking at this place :
http://www.ebuyer.com
kinda similar to your egg site i think
also, i was warned off from asus, as being a bit touch and go when you get one...
though of course this might have changed since
Asus M4A88T-M 880G Socket AM3 Onboard Graphics 8 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard deal, with Kingston Ddr3 2gb 1333mhz/pc3-10666 Memory Non-ecc Cl9 £67.70
and this really is my limit here
thanks for looking and appreciate all of your help...
this has been kinda fun
4+1 is the power phase- the configuration of the votage regulation module, that processes the 12v current from your PSU before sending it to the CPU.
4 phases for the CPU + 1 phase for the memory controller.
The more phases you have, the more stable your system.
High overclocks on low-phase mobos with low quality MOSFETs can cause fire (like real fire).

3+1 is the lowest I've seen on AM3 mobo.
4+1 are the majority or low-class AM3 mobos, the quality ones (Asus, Gb) support up to 125W CPU.
The low quality ones (some MSI and some others I don't know of), even though they say 125W, will explode on 125W load.
8+1 are mid to high-end mobos, that support 140W+.

You can find the phases of your mobo by counting the chokes (1cm black cubes) right to the left of the socket. 4 chokes = 3+1, 5 chokes = 4+1, 9 chokes = 8+1 etc.

Mind, the higher the OC, the more power the CPU consumes.
You can use Power Supply Calculator to find out how much exactly power your overclock consumes.
Edited by ronnin426850 - 5/9/11 at 2:03am
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post #16 of 21
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Asus M4A88T-M 880G Socket AM3 Onboard Graphics 8 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard, has, from what info you gave me, 4+1...
checked some others, and most look to have 3+1
so I would guess, the above board would be better ?
my thanks again

oh, and added rep point too, and should proly do like-wise for a couple of others on here too
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Asus M4A88T-M 880G Socket AM3 Onboard Graphics 8 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard, has, from what info you gave me, 4+1...
checked some others, and most look to have 3+1
so I would guess, the above board would be better ?
my thanks again

oh, and added rep point too, and should proly do like-wise for a couple of others on here too
thanks again
That is a fine mobo. It will give you a good starting point.

Now, to your memory. AMD runs dual channel memory. You will suffer significant losses in performance by running only a single dimm (one stick). That is why I suggested a dual channel kit. If you must, run a single 2gig stick vs. 2x1g so that it will be cheaper to upgrade later (it will just be sluggish until you do).
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That is a fine mobo. It will give you a good starting point.

Now, to your memory. AMD runs dual channel memory. You will suffer significant losses in performance by running only a single dimm (one stick). That is why I suggested a dual channel kit. If you must, run a single 2gig stick vs. 2x1g so that it will be cheaper to upgrade later (it will just be sluggish until you do).
+1.
There are really really cheap 2x2Gb kits out there, which perform more than decent. Check them out
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ok, thanks ronnin and badwrench, will stay with the singular ram for now, and update to 2X2GB a little later, has been fun, switching back and forth seeing what i can find, and get your opinions on things...
so heres to waiting till the end of the week when i get paid, and can order bits and bobs...
post pics, and have you all laughing you donkeys off
my thanks again...
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