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Hey fellas, I suck at maths, so hoping someone can help me out here....

Using DenKirsons BFBC2 weapon stats here
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5426/weaponst.png....

I want to figure out the TTK (Time to Kill) for some weapons.
Reason being, I want to know what weapons take the least amount of time to kill an enemy taking into account the following assumptions:

- Only the closest range damage value is used
- Every shot is a hit (meaning it's up to the user to manage their recoil/spread etc)
- You are either holding down the trigger or clicking as fast as humanly possible
- No damage modifiers are being used (magnum ammo, body armour etc)


So for example:

I want to compare the M9 vs the M1911:
The M9 deals 25 damage which means 4 bullets for a kill (health = 100)
The M1911 deals 33.4 damage which means 3 bullets for a kill

The M9 has a fire rate of 5.83 rounds a second
The M1911 has a fire rate of 4.33 rounds a second

The M9 has a delay of 0.1714 seconds between each shot
The M1911 has a delay of 0.2307 seconds between each shot

Using those numbers, and applying my assumptions mentioned above, how can I figure out which of those two pistols will kill quicker; Which has the fastest TTK.
Edited by rogueblade - 5/7/11 at 2:30pm
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which of those two pistols will kill quicker; Which has the fastest TTK.
try them
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m9 is faster by.01 of a second. The 1911 will take .69 seconds to kill someone, and the M9 only takes .68

Its all about your preference and how accurate of a shot you are.
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m9 is faster by.01 of a second. The 1911 will take .69 seconds to kill someone, and the M9 only takes .68

Its all about your preference and how accurate of a shot you are.
Neat! I'd like to know how you figured that out though so I can do comparisons for say the M60 and MG3 and then some assault rifles
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Neat! I'd like to know how you figured that out though so I can do comparisons for say the M60 and MG3 and then some assault rifles
Well, you don't need to know the fire delay between each shot because this factor is included in the rate of fire. You say the M9 has a rate of fire of 5.83 rounds per second. You also say you need 4 shots to kill. I'll take that for granted and thus calculate the time to kill as the number of shots to kill divided by the rate of fire:

4 / 5.83 = 0.686 seconds

For the M1911:

3 / 4.33 = 0.693 seconds

That's a difference of just:

0.693 - 0.686 = 0.007 seconds

Obviously very insignificant in comparison to human reaction time. The weapon of choice is therefore one of personal preference. In the end, I believe the M9 to be superior simply due to the higher magazine capacity and rate of fire. This means that you can basically afford to miss a couple of shots and still not waste too much time to kill the enemy and you also might not need to reload in the middle of the fire-fight. The above "times to kill" assume perfect accuracy. Also, head shots deal more damage than torso shots so you need to take that into account!

EDIT: I just noticed you live in Putney. Very close to me (Kingston Upon Thames)!
I go over Putney Bridge lots. There's a lot of traffic over there...
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Well, you don't need to know the fire delay between each shot because this factor is included in the rate of fire. You say the M9 has a rate of fire of 5.83 rounds per second. You also say you need 4 shots to kill. I'll take that for granted and thus calculate the time to kill as the number of shots to kill divided by the rate of fire:

4 / 5.83 = 0.686 seconds

For the M1911:

3 / 4.33 = 0.693 seconds

That's a difference of just:

0.693 - 0.686 = 0.007 seconds

Obviously very insignificant in comparison to human reaction time. The weapon of choice is therefore one of personal preference. In the end, I believe the M9 to be superior simply due to the higher magazine capacity and rate of fire. This means that you can basically afford to miss a couple of shots and still not waste too much time to kill the enemy and you also might not need to reload in the middle of the fire-fight. The above "times to kill" assume perfect accuracy. Also, head shots deal more damage than torso shots so you need to take that into account!

EDIT: I just noticed you live in Putney. Very close to me (Kingston Upon Thames)!
I go over Putney Bridge lots. There's a lot of traffic over there...
Thanks man, I'll use that!
Yep Putney , I recently moved to Wandsworth though I still work in Putney and it's only a stone throw between the two. Never been to Kingston Upon Thames
Yea the traffic is brutal which is why I don't and can't own a car. No need really in London
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Thanks man, I'll use that!
Yep Putney , I recently moved to Wandsworth though I still work in Putney and it's only a stone throw between the two. Never been to Kingston Upon Thames
Yea the traffic is brutal which is why I don't and can't own a car. No need really in London
Cool, no problem!
Indeed, all these little towns and all next to each other, hehe. Very true about having a car in London. I myself don't have one either - my complaints regarding traffic in Putney relate to the long bus rides I take through Putney, hahaha. I did rent a car once and drove through Putney, which to my surprise was more intense than driving through Chelsea!
    
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I believe you are looking for Rate of Damage number....

Damage * Rate/60 = damage per second.

Then (100 / damage per second) = time it takes to kill.
Edited by DuckieHo - 5/7/11 at 5:25pm
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this equation is kind of pointless when you have to factor in network latency. sometimes a shot doesnt register until half a second later even at point blank range!
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I like where this is going, I need to know how to destroy my enemy before he whips out the Carl Gustav.
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