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Hey guys I've been really happy with my x25m G2 for the past couple of years but recently bought a Thinkpad laptop and put the SSD in the laptop so my desktop is currently running of off a WD black.
I would like to get a 120GB SSD, was looking at the new Intel series or vertex 3. Unfortunately my mobo only supports sata 2 and since sata 3 is future I would prefer to get that even though I won't be upgrading my desktop for at least another year. I've been looking at pci addon cards but models from ASUS don't support my mobo (P5E) and some others have issues with slow boot. This is actually my first time asking for help at OCN and I would be grateful I could get some info and suggestions.

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Just buy it, run it of sata 2. Then when you upgrade get a sata 3 board?
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I was planning on writing a thread with the exact same question. Also Sata 2 here, and also want a 120GB SSD.

If you are not going to be upgrading the rig for another year I'd suggest getting a Sata 2 SSD, as they are plenty for now and cheaper, and SSD, as a new tech, will come down in price while the capacity goes up in a year. So in another year you can get something like a 240GB Sata 3 SSD with an even faster controller for much less.

I'd suggest a CORSAIR SSD 120GB FORCE F120 or an OCZ SSD VERTEX 2 120GB.
 
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Personally I would be fine running a Sata3 SSD in my current system for a year. A maxed out SATA2 connection is still pretty fast. How much would it bother you that its not being used to its maximum potential?

Tpi2007 does have a point that maybe you could buy a cheaper SSD now and then get a better SSD for your next build. Guess you have to look at your budget and see if thats a possibility.
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thanks for the responses guys, I'm thinking the same way as tpi. The sata 120gb SSD is around 70€ more expensive than a equivalent sata2 SSD and I'm always bothered if I have something in my system that isn't utilized to its max capabilities if you know what I mean.

I was looking at the exact same drives tpi suggested but since a friend on mine had bad luck with 1st gen vertex' I think Corsair is the way to go even though its sligtly more expensive. Is there an Intel drive with 120GB capacity and same performance as the two drives mentioned before? I really like the Intel toolbox.

I won't be upgradin for a while, I'm running my c2d non OCed and its goes easy up to 4.3ghz, a new GPU and I'm set for another 2 years.

The real question is, is sata3 SSD any faster and better performing that sata2 SSD both ran from a sata2 interface?
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post #6 of 19
As stated there's no problem running a SATA 6 Gbps drive off of a 3 Gbps port.
You'll mainly only be limited to sequential R/W speed if your drive can do more than ~265 MB/sec.

As far as speed differences, really depends on the drives themselves. Things like 4k R/W won't be limited by a 3 Gbps pipe but could vary between drives.
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Sata 3 SSD will work on a Sata II bus but obviously you will not see the full bandwidth from the SSD,

Its worth buying a sata 3 over a sata II so when you do upgrade your mobo you wont have to fork out for another SSD in the future,
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thanks for the responses guys, I'm thinking the same way as tpi. The sata 120gb SSD is around 70€ more expensive than a equivalent sata2 SSD and I'm always bothered if I have something in my system that isn't utilized to its max capabilities if you know what I mean.

I was looking at the exact same drives tpi suggested but since a friend on mine had bad luck with 1st gen vertex' I think Corsair is the way to go even though its sligtly more expensive. Is there an Intel drive with 120GB capacity and same performance as the two drives mentioned before? I really like the Intel toolbox.

I won't be upgradin for a while, I'm running my c2d non OCed and its goes easy up to 4.3ghz, a new GPU and I'm set for another 2 years.

The real question is, is sata3 SSD any faster and better performing that sata2 SSD both ran from a sata2 interface?

There is the Intel SSD 120GB SATA II - 320 SERIES (R 270MB / W 130MB), which costs about the same as the other two I suggested (at least where I live), but the write speed is lower than the Corsair and OCZ that can do R 285MB / W 275MB.

In my country the price difference between the Sata 2 and Sata 3 versions is also about the same as yours - the 120GB OCZ Sata 2 costs € 61,7 less than the Sata 3 version, while the Corsair P3 128GB Sata 3 costs € 68,4 more than the Sata 2 (and doesn't do as well in write operations - features a Marvell controller). Also, the Sata 3 120GB Intel 510 Series costs € 67,7 more than the Sata 2 320 Series, and it does not do as well as the Sata 2 Corsair and OCZ in write operations - 510 SERIES (R 450MB / W 210MB).

Looking at the prices and the huge room for capacity expansion in the near future, I bet in a year's time the 240GB drives, that cost about twice as the 120GB, will be at this price.

As to the performance of Sata 3 drives in a Sata 2 board, there might be a slight improvement, but seeing the specifications of both the Corsair and OCZ Sata 2 are almost to the full potential of Sata 2, I don't think it's warranted to spend another € 60 - 70 for the same drive capacity. If you were to build a new rig in, say, 4-6 months, I'd probably say get the Sata 3 as you will be benefiting from it in a reasonable timeframe. But if you intend to keep your rig for at least another year, possibly 2, and since SSD tech is going so fast, get the Sata 2 and keep the money to buy something else you enjoy in the meantime (games for example ). Next year you'll have affordable and higher capacity SSD's where you can actually start thinking of storing most documents/videos/games for super fast access.
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post #9 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by macca_dj View Post
Its worth buying a sata 3 over a sata II so when you do upgrade your mobo you wont have to fork out for another SSD in the future.
^ This!

I did not consider this when I grabbed my SATA 3Gb/s Force SSD a few months back (I've since bought a new board with SATA 6Gb/s). I doubt I would actually notice the increased performance with a 6Gb/s drive but it bugs me knowing that I'm not going to be fully utilizing my new board's features.

Much better to have a fast drive slightly limited by your current bus throughput but which will be able to be fully utilized in the future than to be permanently limited by a slower drive (if you can actually call any decent SSD 'slow' by consumer standards).
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post #10 of 19
If you're not upgrading any time soon save yourself some money and get a Vertex 2. Or go all out and do a Revo if your mobo is compatible.
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