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I'm a newb what comes to HDD's and now that I got a second F3, I'm thinking about RAIDing them, now could someone explain me what all types of RAIDs are there ans what do they do? My mobo is the AsRock x58 Extreme. Thanks!
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The only raids you can do with 2 hdd is a raid 0 or 1.
Raid 0 provides no redundancy so a HDD failure destroys your array. Raid 1 is creating a mirror copy of the disk onto the other disk in the array.
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Yes but Raid 0 increases performance
    
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post #4 of 37
Increases performance, with diminishing returns.
1 HDD: 100% Rated performance
2 HDDs: ~150% Performance, chance of drive failing doubles
3 HDDs: ~175% Performance, chance of drive failing triples

At least this is my experiences, besides the drives failing... That's statistical!

EDIT: This example works provided the drives are absolutely identical, mixing drives results will vary, a little.
     
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Indeed, its the choice between performance (Raid0) or redundancy (Raid1).... Many will go on to say don't do RAID0 because if one drive fails you lose everything. I've been running these raptors in RAID0 for 5+ years... No problems. A good idea is to do regular backups in case you have a problem. The speed increase is well worth it.

Edit:- To the above poster you may be surprised by how well drive speeds in RAID improves. I benched my 2 drives against 3 identical, they almost had a 50% increase in read/write than my array.
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post #6 of 37
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Raid0 it is, how hard is it to setup? and I will probably have to re-install OS right? If so, is there any way to make an .ISO out of my current setup? Or make a "upgrade" install?

IDC about the drive failure rates, because the only thing I will lose is my CoD 4 stats and in game settings... lol...
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post #7 of 37
It will probably be best for a fresh instal, although I just clone the array to a single drive then clone back after the array is setup.
 
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OP, do you want raid for backup, or for performance? If for backup, what are you backing up? I have run raid in the past, but if you are backing up photographs or other irreplaceable files, I would recommend either a separate backup or paying for off site backup rather then a raid array. A raid array can protect against HDD failure, but when all the drives are in the same physical location, any other type of computer problem or disaster (computer fire, house fire, flood, etc) can physically destroy everything you have. I store a mirror copy of my hard drives on a separate machine running Linux server in a completely different location of my house.
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post #9 of 37
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Originally Posted by TheReaperWaits View Post
It will probably be best for a fresh instal, although I just clone the array to a single drive then clone back after the array is setup.
How exactly is this done?
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OP, do you want raid for backup, or for performance? If for backup, what are you backing up? I have run raid in the past, but if you are backing up photographs or other irreplaceable files, I would recommend either a separate backup or paying for off site backup rather then a raid array. A raid array can protect against HDD failure, but when all the drives are in the same physical location, any other type of computer problem or disaster (computer fire, house fire, flood, etc) can physically destroy everything you have. I store a mirror copy of my hard drives on a separate machine running Linux server in a completely different location of my house.
Performance, dont care about files, nothing personal on this comp.
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