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So I'm heading off to college next year and its time to figure out what laptop to get.

I've been researching for a while now, and at first I liked the price to performance as well as options offered by Sager (XoticPC namely).

I was set on the NP5165 with the following configuration:

- 15.6" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" w/ 95% NTSC Color Gamut Screen
- i7-2630QM
- GT555m
- 8GB DDR3 1333
- 750GB 7200 RPM drive
- Intel Advanced-N 6230
- Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Which comes to $1529 from XoticPC.

However there were a few things that I wasn't entirely convinced about the Sager, like the subpar audio and port placements, as well as an entirely plastic build with glossy lid.

I've looked at a lot of other companies and models, and out of the more major brands, I'm liking the HP dv6t quad edition with these specs:

- 15.6" Brightview 1333 x 768 screen
- i7-2630QM
- HD 6770M
- 8GB DDR3 1333
- 640GB 7200 RPM drive
- Intel Advanced-N 6230
- Windows 7 Ultimate x64

For the price of $1262.99 (with a $150 instant discount).

I like the design a lot better than the Sager, except for one thing, that dam screen! Honestly, why can't HP offer a decent screen on a 15.6 laptop???

Anyway, aside from the low-res and glossy screen, the HP seems to be a better deal, considering the price and overall build.

Would it be possible to replace the HP screen with the same one as the Sager, the AU B156HW01 V.5? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...414#vi-content) That would make it my perfect laptop!

Also, any opinions on my choices or recommendations on alternatives?
    
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If you can find a compatible screen. There are many mods out there you can do, but I haven't seen any guides for newer laptops. I would suggest you go with a Asus G53. Do a quick google.
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I've seen the G53 already, but its far to bulky to carry around. I'm looking for a 15.6 laptop that I can bring to my classes, with enough power for some gaming every now in then when plugged in.
    
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Originally Posted by caos800 View Post
So I'm heading off to college next year and its time to figure out what laptop to get.

I've been researching for a while now, and at first I liked the price to performance as well as options offered by Sager (XoticPC namely).

I was set on the NP5165 with the following configuration:

- 15.6" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" w/ 95% NTSC Color Gamut Screen
- i7-2630QM
- GT555m
- 8GB DDR3 1333
- 750GB 7200 RPM drive
- Intel Advanced-N 6230
- Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Which comes to $1529 from XoticPC.

However there were a few things that I wasn't entirely convinced about the Sager, like the subpar audio and port placements, as well as an entirely plastic build with glossy lid.

I've looked at a lot of other companies and models, and out of the more major brands, I'm liking the HP dv6t quad edition with these specs:

- 15.6" Brightview 1333 x 768 screen
- i7-2630QM
- HD 6770M
- 8GB DDR3 1333
- 640GB 7200 RPM drive
- Intel Advanced-N 6230
- Windows 7 Ultimate x64

For the price of $1262.99 (with a $150 instant discount).

I like the design a lot better than the Sager, except for one thing, that dam screen! Honestly, why can't HP offer a decent screen on a 15.6 laptop???

Anyway, aside from the low-res and glossy screen, the HP seems to be a better deal, considering the price and overall build.

Would it be possible to replace the HP screen with the same one as the Sager, the AU B156HW01 V.5? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...414#vi-content) That would make it my perfect laptop!

Also, any opinions on my choices or recommendations on alternatives?
This comparison you're making is really not fair at all. The display on the Sager is worth more than $200 than that on the HP. That, and the GeForce GT 555M is around 30% faster than the Radeon HD 6770M.
    
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How is the display worth more than $200 than that on the HP? The screen I linked from the ebay store is the same exact high-end display that goes into the Sager.

Also, as far as I know the GT 555M and the HD 6770 are very comparable GPUs. According to NotebookCheck, the Gt 555M is ranked 43, while the 6770 is 44, and both have very similar performance. Do you have any links to show that the 555 is faster?
    
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How is the display worth more than $200 than that on the HP? The screen I linked from the ebay store is the same exact high-end display that goes into the Sager.

Also, as far as I know the GT 555M and the HD 6770 are very comparable GPUs. According to NotebookCheck, the Gt 555M is ranked 43, while the 6770 is 44, and both have very similar performance. Do you have any links to show that the 555 is faster?
I was including the cost of labor for the display. And no, NBC's ratings are messed up. They rank them as being almost the same performance, but when you look at their gaming benchmarks, they're way off.

Example:

On Need for Speed: Shift, both running at 1366x768 and High, the GT 555M scores 55.3 FPS while the 6770 scores 39.7 FPS. In DIRT 2 it gets 58.1 FPS while the 6770 gets 45 FPS. In StarCraft 2 it does lose, though, 46 FPS to 55. So the GT 555M should definitely be faster, though probably not by what I mentioned earlier (30%). I'd put it more as 10-15% now. Oh, and the other one is an HP. They don't have good reliability and their customer service/warranty is the absolute worst in the industry.
    
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