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If you like Slack, how come you went Fedora? Package management?

I kinda like Fedora, I prefer yum to apt (although I love both), I found it more sluggish than Ubuntu though (talking about 10.04 here vs Fedora 13 though)
yum "feels" more sluggish because it's doing the equivalent of apt-get update every time you run it.

As for package management, I long ago decided I didn't want to have to worry so much about resolving dependencies -- or, for that matter, not getting an important update in a timely manner. I haven't really taken Slackware seriously since (though I also don't think it was meant to be taken seriously).
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yum "feels" more sluggish because it's doing the equivalent of apt-get update every time you run it.

As for package management, I long ago decided I didn't want to have to worry so much about resolving dependencies -- or, for that matter, not getting an important update in a timely manner. I haven't really taken Slackware seriously since (though I also don't think it was meant to be taken seriously).
Linux wasn't meant to be taken seriously.
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with all the little problems that have crept into ubuntu 11.04, i've decided it was time to move onto a new distro...fedora 15 here i come for now, lets see if i like it or not, if i don't, i will be distro hopping for a bit
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yum "feels" more sluggish because it's doing the equivalent of apt-get update every time you run it.
Can't that be changed by altering the metadata expiry time? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what that actually does. I'm not overly familiar with Yum
    
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Can't that be changed by altering the metadata expiry time? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what that actually does. I'm not overly familiar with Yum
After reading the man on it I have to wonder...did Fedora move from a "get it yourself" idea with rpms to a "we'll manage things for you"? Because yum stands for "Yellowdog Updater Modified". So they stole it from Yellowdog?
     
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Well, its not urpmi but.....lmao If you're set on Fedora, there are a couple spins that are set up ootb and make life a little easier. Give Omega, Fusion, or Fuduntu ( yes, it is fedora-based) a try and good luck. the damn flash bug in firefox is probably the only reason I don't have a Fedora partition myself.
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Can't that be changed by altering the metadata expiry time? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what that actually does. I'm not overly familiar with Yum
Every repository (regardless of apt, yum, urpmi, slackbuilds, whatever) has an index of what packages and what versions of those packages. This data needs to be refreshed on occasion so that your system is actually aware that updates are available. You can tell yum to skip checking the repositories for updates and run locally with the --cacheonly option. But then you risk not getting updates.

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After reading the man on it I have to wonder...did Fedora move from a "get it yourself" idea with rpms to a "we'll manage things for you"? Because yum stands for "Yellowdog Updater Modified". So they stole it from Yellowdog?
Not exactly.

Up until 2003, Red Hat distributed a single distribution, Red Hat Linux, the latest in that line being Red Hat 9. It used its own update tool, called up2date. When Red Hat split the distro into Fedora and Enterprise, it also changed up2date to only allow Enterprise customers to use it. Thus Fedora needed a replacement, and yum was selected.

(Yellow Dog Linux was a Red Hat fork that ran on PPC Macintosh, and it developed yum for much the same reason as Fedora used it; up2date wasn't suitable for it.)

These days, up2date can actually use yum as a backend, so they're much closer than they were in the past.
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But, can it run Crysis?



yes it can
and Metro 2033






@ OP I went from and to menny distro's when ubuntu started to go down hill
you will like fedora
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the damn flash bug in firefox is probably the only reason I don't have a Fedora partition myself.
What flash bug? I use my rig for gaming so haven't used linux at all for a minute. Have arch installed on a drive, but was running Fed 14 before that. I forget the process, but flash is pretty easy to install on x64 for FF.
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Every repository (regardless of apt, yum, urpmi, slackbuilds, whatever) has an index of what packages and what versions of those packages. This data needs to be refreshed on occasion so that your system is actually aware that updates are available. You can tell yum to skip checking the repositories for updates and run locally with the --cacheonly option. But then you risk not getting updates.
You don't need to check every time you want to install an application though.
    
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