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You don't need to check every time you want to install an application though.
you do if you don't install applications all that often i've had that problem before in the past where i would install something, from a slightly outdated repository, and then do a "update" of the information in the db, only to find out the programs i installed in the last few days prior, all had updates...with yum, i'm guaranteed to have the most up to date repo information, which is nice
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Arch!

i really dont like the package manager in fedora.
I agree. After using Pacman I really don't like any other package managers.
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you do if you don't install applications all that often
That is true. But if that is how you roll, the "sluggishness" of Yum shouldn't ruin your day too much given how infrequently you use it.
    
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That is true. But if that is how you roll, the "sluggishness" of Yum shouldn't ruin your day too much given how infrequently you use it.
oh its annoying the crap out of me atm, but it is a fresh install, and i'm still getting everything setup. with the exception of that little detail, apt and yum seem very comparable to each other.
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I would think apt is faster than yum, or are you talking about use?
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I would think apt is faster than yum, or are you talking about use?
both.

yum does have that slow down at the first of it due to it "updating software" sources each time you go to install something, but once it begins downloading and installing, i would honestly say they are about the same speed at installing/updating...yum does seem a bit faster on some of the packages, but that could be easily explained as "debian" takes the more "safe" route by including a lot more dependencies, or breaking up large programs, especially optional components, into separate packages.
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both.

yum does have that slow down at the first of it due to it "updating software" sources each time you go to install something, but once it begins downloading and installing, i would honestly say they are about the same speed at installing/updating...yum does seem a bit faster on some of the packages, but that could be easily explained as "debian" takes the more "safe" route by including a lot more dependencies, or breaking up large programs, especially optional components, into separate packages.
apt has always been fast for me, loads faster than anything I've ever had.... You do have to play around and re-organized the local list of installed files to keep it's "speed". That's a dpkg problem though, which should get fixed some day... I've never had apt be slow/sluggish, it's always been apt-get install <lame program> and then BAM! Installed. Ok, not that quick but close.
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I might try out Fedora too, I've never used Red Hat or any of it's derivatives so it might be fun.
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I like the idea of Fedora (I guess in a similar way to the idea of a pre-built Arch system, with the cutting-edge repos offered), but when I referred to the sluggishness, I meant of the system in general. Granted, I'm talking a couple of releases ago (back when Ubuntu was still credible!), but it was slower that the XP install it was replacing. It's a shame, as I wanted it to be so good, but I just couldn't justify the loss in performance. Now, it's not as bad as Sabayon (only used in a VM, but my god is that slow compared to Ubuntu or Debian!), but I had to go with Ubuntu (well, Mint in the end) just to match the performance of XP (on the poor little Celeron M, aww)
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with the exception of that little detail, apt and yum seem very comparable to each other.
Except that Yum is much more verbose in its output to the terminal, and more organised.
    
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