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Good to know. What do you tell Microsoft when you need to transfer and activate an OEM edition of Windows on another computer? Just curious if I get some crazy representative on the phone who may not be as knowledgeable and tell me it can't be done?

I have OEM windows 7 for my HTPC that I am wanting to part out, and I'd hate to buy another copy of Windows if I don't have to.
Well, you tell them what you did. I called and told them that I bought Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM and installed it on a machine. I told them that I wanted to transfer the OS license to another machine and that I had deleted the OS from aforementioned machine and that I installed in the new one, but needed for them to activate it. In the course of the conversation of course he asked me for some information which I provided. After I told him I needed for them to activate it, he told me he'd put me on hold for a bit and then came back and told me it was activated. Done.

EDIT:

But again, remember, you need to delete the OS completely from the other machine before you do anything else.

EDIT 2:

Apparently it's not actually allowed, so don't do it. My understanding was it could be done, but it seems that's not true.
Edited by LOL_Wut_Axel - 5/8/11 at 7:46pm
    
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1.Can I transfer my operating system license from an old PC to a new one?
ANSWER. Not unless it was purchased as a Full-Packaged Product from a retail store (i.e., Windows in a box). Current OEM licenses for all Microsoft operating system products are not transferable from one machine to another. The End User License Agreement (EULA) governs the terms for transfer of licenses. Some EULAs for copies of certain older OEM operating system products (i.e., MS-DOS®, Windows® 3.1, and Windows for Workgroups 3.1) distributed in 1995 or earlier may permit transfer of the OEM operating system software license under limited circumstances. (See Software Product Transfer section of your End User License Agreement.)
Source: Microsoft http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...42/oslicqa.doc

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The operators that are manning those phone lines do not have the training (or inclination) to determine if you are installing on a new machine or not. The license is clear; OEM = one machine only.
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So next time someone suggests that installing an OEM OS on a new (read: not the original) computer is OK; will get a Piracy Infraction.
Posted by BFRD: http://www.overclock.net/windows/156...ification.html

Please read through that entire post. What a phone representative does doesn't mean that Microsoft as a company allows it.
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As Lemonslice has said OEM is a one time only affair, it can NOT legally be used on any other computer regardless of whether or not it is "retired" from the first computer
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I am tired of reading so many posts suggesting that you may install an OEM copy of a Windows OS on multiple computers and still retain a proper license. Just because you call up and ask for a license key and you are given one does NOT make it OK. Not getting caught is not the same thing as being allowed. The operators that are manning those phone lines do not have the training (or inclination) to determine if you are installing on a new machine or not. The license is clear; OEM = one machine only.

OEM licenses are cheaper for a reason, and it has very little to do with not having a box. It is cheaper because eventually you will need a new machine and will then have to buy another copy of the OS. So next time someone suggests that installing an OEM OS on a new (read: not the original) computer is OK; will get a Piracy Infraction.

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Minor hardware changes are permitted
A motherboard change is never minor
Hardware failure may not allow you to re-activate a license
This thread is about licensing not morality
MS will often allow you to re-activate even though they shouldn't, they have stated this will not protect you from prosecution
If you are upset about the licensing issues of OEM software complain to your system builder
http://www.overclock.net/windows/156...ification.html
Retail = one computer at a time
OEM = One computer ever
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As Lemonslice has said OEM is a one time only affair, it can NOT legally be used on any other computer regardless of whether or not it is "retired" from the first computer

http://www.overclock.net/windows/156...ification.html
Retail = one computer at a time
OEM = One computer ever
Bah. I'll edit the post then. Seems extremely suspicious that Microsoft would tell me it was okay.
    
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Bah. I'll edit the post then. Seems extremely suspicious that Microsoft would tell me it was okay.
The "Microsoft" you speak of is a level 1 phone support who doesn't fully understand the legalities of the issue. They find a reason to move onto the next phone call asap, even if it means activating the key for you

(trust me, I worked phone tech support briefly. They get paid based on call volume)
    
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It seems like I won't be buying Windows OEM anymore if this is the case. From my understanding, you can install Windows Retail on up to three of your machines, correct?
    
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It seems like I won't be buying Windows OEM anymore if this is the case. From my understanding, you can install Windows Retail on up to three of your machines, correct?
Retail is transferable. I don't recall if it is limited to 3 or not, i know it just has to be installed on only 1 computer at any given time.

Answer might be in here, or here already.
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Retail is transferable. I don't recall if it is limited to 3 or not, i know it just has to be installed on only 1 computer at any given time.

Answer might be in here, or here already.
Bah. You're not really saving anything by going OEM, then. If you get it you're stuck to your motherboard until you get a new copy and install it in the new one. With Retail, you can just remove it from the old one and transfer it to the new one. If you decide to get another motherboard later on, you can remove it from the old one again and install on the new, thus saving you $100. I'm not gonna be buying OEM anymore, that's for sure.
    
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Wrong. Windows 7 Home Premium Retail allows you to install the OS on up to three different systems. OEM allows you to install it on only one system, but the license can be moved to another motherboard. For this, you first need to remove the OS from the Hard Drive, install it on the new machine, call Microsoft, and they'll activate it.

And I say it because I have experience with OEM myself and with Retail for clients.
Might you be talking about the Windows 7 Home Premium Family Pack Upgrade? (Orange Box)

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...RefID.87DFFF11

And NOT the regular Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade? (Green Box)

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...ctID.216644600

BTW, when it comes to OEM and moving it to a new computer. I've encountered instances wherein you get lucky and an MS tech will help you activate while in some other instances they will cringe upon discovering that you have an OEM copy. Luck of the draw, IMHO.


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The "Microsoft" you speak of is a level 1 phone support who doesn't fully understand the legalities of the issue. They find a reason to move onto the next phone call asap, even if it means activating the key for you

(trust me, I worked phone tech support briefly. They get paid based on call volume)
So true. Have a few friends of mine who work as Level 1 phone support.
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Good to know. What do you tell Microsoft when you need to transfer and activate an OEM edition of Windows on another computer? Just curious if I get some crazy representative on the phone who may not be as knowledgeable and tell me it can't be done?

I have OEM windows 7 for my HTPC that I am wanting to part out, and I'd hate to buy another copy of Windows if I don't have to.
unfortunately, legally speaking that oem copy is attached to the motherboard.

The way activation works is your only allowed X amount of activations over X amount of time, as well as any number of component changes. for example, if you change a video card, its worth X amount of points, and after you gather so many points, the OS will prompt you to reactivate.
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