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Just thought I'd pop back and say the resolution of the Dell U2711 is actually 2560x1440 @ 16:9.

And the only reason I swapped it for two Dell U3011's is because I wanted something absolutely overkill and I got a really, really good deal on them

EDIT:

Mate you're comparing a TN Panel to a H-IPS panel. The IPS panel is quality beyond measure. You get better viewing angles, better picture quality, better resolution, better everything, which is also backed by Dell's great customer service (Well for me anyway) and three year warranty. I have personally used the Dell U2711 in gaming BC2, etc. etc. and I haven't noticed any lag. Only when the server gets a bit choppy but you can't blame a monitor for that.

EDIT 2: Also dezmick you can grab a refurbished Dell U2711 for quite cheap as well. I know it may end up being a little out of your price range depending on the road you take but trust me you'll never go back to a TN panel if you do. The quality is just jaw dropping.
16:9 You're right. I misread the review lol

Yes, the quality is better but it's super expensive for just 27". His budget is $500 and he wants two lol. Maybe you don't notice any input lag, but it's there (according to their tests). Fast paced gamers will probably notice it.

Anyway, I only recommended it because it's what I use. Games look great as do movies. And the price tag is pretty low
    
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I went to a Scorptech and saw a u2711 Doing a 3DMark11 demo, it was amazing!

They are incredible to look at and would be amazing to game on.
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it really depends on whether you want to game on it or not.
If so, the U2711 is not for you, because of the high input lag.
If no, then the U2711 is for you.

For pure gaming, that Viewsonic is a very good bet for that application.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/...c_vx2739wm.htm

Read that review. Goes into depth on all the positives and negatives of it.
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Off Topic: Hey Jesse is Scorptech any good? I am stuck in Tassie mate and have to order most of my stuff.

On Topic:

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16:9 You're right. I misread the review lol

Yes, the quality is better but it's super expensive for just 27". His budget is $500 and he wants two lol. Maybe you don't notice any input lag, but it's there (according to their tests). Fast paced gamers will probably notice it.

Anyway, I only recommended it because it's what I use. Games look great as do movies. And the price tag is pretty low
It would help if we knew where he lived, in the states or somewhere else so I could do my best to find him a cheap U2711 because it is just that good.

EDIT: I will say this again the input lag is barely even noticeable when you're in game. I've gamed on it for many, many hours and haven't noticed it at all.
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The 2 best imo are the Dell 2711 and upcoming samsung syncmaster Ta950.
But for that price I suggest one of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001431
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236091
I had that Asus, it was an excellent monitor and I would certainly recommend it. I highly doubt that you would see a significant difference between the Dell and it, despite what everyone says here. I know that spec-wise the Dell is better, but it can't possibly be $500 better.

I find it especially weird because I got my entire eyefinity setup, video card and all, for under the price of that Dell monitor.
Edited by Bacchus451 - 5/9/11 at 3:24am
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I had that Asus, it was an excellent monitor and I would certainly recommend it. I highly doubt that you would see a significant difference between the Dell and it, despite what everyone says here. I know that spec-wise the Dell is better, but it can't possibly be $500 better.

I find it especially weird because I got my entire eyefinity setup, video card and all, for under the price of that Dell monitor.
if you haven't seen an IPS panel monitor, then really you have no right to judge.
post #17 of 20
Yeah the U2711 is more but its worth it in the long run. I know run a U3011 with 2 U2311H's in portrait on either side and the U3011 was a noticable upgrade over my 23's which were pretty good to begin with. I play bad company 2 on it and its great and iirc the 30 is a bit slower response time than the 27 even
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it really depends on whether you want to game on it or not.
If so, the U2711 is not for you, because of the high input lag.
If no, then the U2711 is for you.

For pure gaming, that Viewsonic is a very good bet for that application.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/...c_vx2739wm.htm

Read that review. Goes into depth on all the positives and negatives of it.


It's what the reviews mention, I can't speak from experience.. but if reviews are mentioning input lag which is bad for gaming, I stay away from it no matter how beautiful it looks. I've noticed differences between 5ms response time monitors and 2ms response time monitors.. but many others wont.

I'm glad some of you and many others enjoy that monitor.. but if I were to cough up that much money and noticed input lag (I know I would) then I'd be super pissed lol.. regardless of how beautiful it looks. Anything above 2ms response time has always had noticeable input lag for me. I literally unboxed a Samsung 32" 1080p monitor/tv and put it right back in the box once I saw how crazy the delay was.. and this was just from moving my mouse around on the desktop.

Also, from just typing "U2711 " in google, the first suggestion that comes up is input lag.. and here are the search results..

http://www.google.com/search?aq=0&oq...2711+input+lag

Here's an actual graph, showing that the response time is 30ms!!! 28.1ms in "game mode"... If any of you don't notice input lag, try a 2ms or even 5ms monitor for a day and notice you'll huge difference lol



If you just game for fun, and not competitively or fast shooters, you'll probably be fine with 30ms (LOL I'm sorry but that's just crazy). If you're not annoyed by input lag, you wont notice it. If you are, like me, you will definitely notice it.

Review from Cnet
http://www.cnet.com.au/dell-ultrasha...-339301091.htm

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The Bad

Input lag might be disturbing to competitive gamers
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Conclusion

With a huge resolution, excellent performance in both colour and movies, and a huge amount of inputs, the U2711 excels in almost every area it puts its mark to. Hardcore gamers may be a little wary of the input lag, and others of the cost - but if you can afford one, you'll likely be very, very pleased.
It's mentioned over and over..

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/revie...11-part15.html

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As well as the response time, the oft-mentioned input lag is also relevant in determining the suitability of a monitor for gaming. If too much time passes between input and the optical response, the controls may become too indirect, especially fort he fraction of "Hardcore gamers".

Compared to a CRT, we measured a very even lag using the SMTT tool, which allows the input lag to be measured more precisely. The lag varies within a range of +/- 3 ms (starting with the average value) and is around 24 ms on average. This means that the DELL U2711 falls into the category of models with a display lag of one to two frames.
A sad consumer
http://www.keybeatonline.com/forums/...ead.php?t=3205
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I bought a Dell U2711 and it has more input lag than my last monitor. I'm having a pretty tough time adjusting.

I tried sm-ssc's video lag option but it won't let me choose -1 for some reason. I can chosse -5 through -2 but when I set -1 it switches automagically to +1 and is really off. Set at 0 I have to hit the notes like 1/2 inch before they actually get to the receptors.

Does anybody else have this monitor but not notice the problem? Does anybody notice the problem and have a remedy or a workaround?
Another..
http://omgili.com/dell-input-lag-u2711
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Hi all, I have a Dell U2711 and for the most part love it, but for FPS games it is leaving something to be desired; the input lag is hurting my gaming experience. I was thinking I would like to get another monitor (with much lower input lag) to replace...
I'm not trying to flame or start a war but it's pretty much being mentioned in reviews, by customers who game.. Other than the input lag it's definitely top notch. If you're not a hardcore gamer and don't mind seeing your screen react two frames later, you probably wont notice it. But if you're upgrading from a CRT or a monitor with 2ms or even 5ms response time, you will definitely notice input delay/lag while gaming... again, according to consumer testimony.
    
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Off Topic: Hey Jesse is Scorptech any good? I am stuck in Tassie mate and have to order most of my stuff.
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Confirming that the Dell 27" IPS has input delay of roughly 30ms, which is almost two frames at 60fps. This delay is caused by a built-in scaler afaik.

The lower res of the 27" tn panels also mean you're getting a higher framerate due to your gpu pushing less pixels.

- If gaming is your priority, get a tn panel.
- If colour and quality are your major concerns, get an IPS.
- If you want to game AND you want an IPS, the only options I know of are the HP ZR24W and the HP ZR30W, which have relatively low input latency.
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