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Wow, great counterarguments. I am really impressed. Now post something substantial.

Also, the site is well known: it's TechPowerUp, one of the most recognized hardware review sites.


560 ti direct CU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121424



6950 1gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102921



If you were to shop on Newegg, which many do, you'd be able to pick up that 6950 1GB for even cheaper than any 560 TI on the site. So even by your own benchmark you posted, and the countless other benchmarks shown which have a 6950 ahead of a 560, you'd be able to get a 6950 for the same if not lesser than price of a 560.

Exactly how can you recommend one over the other then? If anything Tom's has it right, which they even state that a 6950 barely edged the 560 out. I mean come on man....you're grasping at straws here.
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I already talked about the unlocks. People make them out to be the biggest thing since sliced bread, but they only give you 3% more performance. And the GTX 560 Ti overclocks more than the Radeon HD 6950. But yes, if you game at 2560x1600 or higher the extra VRAM will prove worthwhile. For most, though, it won't.

What makes them most pointless is the blatant lies they spew.
What blatant lies? And the unlock is still nice anyway. And most 6950s can hit 1Ghz, and the GTX 560s can hit 1Ghz, so they overclock about the same actually. Well in the UK (possibly EU?) the 2GB 6950 is cheaper so for us that's the better deal. Not everyone lives in the US.
    
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560 ti direct CU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121424



6950 1gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102921



If you were to shop on Newegg, which many do, you'd be able to pick up that 6950 1GB for even cheaper than any 560 TI on the site. So even by your own benchmark you posted, and the countless other benchmarks shown which have a 6950 ahead of a 560, you'd be able to get a 6950 for the same if not lesser than price of a 560.

Exactly how can you recommend one over the other then? If anything Tom's has it right, which they even state that a 6950 barely edged the 560 out. I mean come on man....you're grasping at straws here.
Ahahahaha. Extremely funny how you say you're gonna leave and then you find out you have no good arguments and come back for some more.

You know, it's really funny when people compare the cheapest card of one manufacturer against one of the more expensive ones from the other.

You can easily get a PNY GTX 560 Ti from for $240. Prices have been raised in comparison to last week, but they'll go back down.

Here's the problem with Tom's: they state the GTX 560 Ti competes with the Radeon HD 6870, and that's a blatant lie. The GTX 560 Ti is considerably faster. If we're comparing the Radeon HD 6950 1GB to the GTX 560 Ti, now it's competitive due to the price being raised. For the 2GB, only worth it if you're playing at 2560x1600 or higher.
    
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Ahahahaha. Extremely funny how you say you're gonna leave and then you find out you have no good arguments and come back for some more.

You know, it's really funny when people compare the cheapest card of one manufacturer against one of the more expensive ones from the other.

You can easily get a PNY GTX 560 Ti from Amazon for $240. Prices have been raised in comparison to last week, but they'll go back down.

Here's the problem with Tom's: they state the GTX 560 Ti competes with the Radeon HD 6870, and that's a blatant lie. The GTX 560 Ti is considerably faster. If we're comparing the Radeon HD 6950 1GB to the GTX 560 Ti, now it's competitive due to the price being raised. For the 2GB, only worth it if you're playing at 2560x1600 or higher.
The only other cards on Newegg came with factory overclocks for a premium, I figured most people here knew how to slide a bar over in your desired overclocking tool. That was actually one of the cheapest 560's on Newegg, that's why I picked it. Unless you want some garbage looking Palit with an orange fan. I think that one was still more than a 6950.

So what was your point again? That a 560 TI is better value than a 6950? No matter how many ways you try to spin it, you are wrong, it's not.
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What blatant lies? And the unlock is still nice anyway. And most 6950s can hit 1Ghz, and the GTX 560s can hit 1Ghz, so they overclock about the same actually. Well in the UK (possibly EU?) the 2GB 6950 is cheaper so for us that's the better deal. Not everyone lives in the US.
Like the fact that they compare the Radeon HD 6870 to the GTX 560 Ti? Or the fact that they put the Radeon HD 6790 and the GTX 460 768MB as being "similar"? Or the fact that the article states the best card and tries to cheat by using CrossFire/SLI?
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The only other cards on Newegg came with factory overclocks for a premium, I figured most people here knew how to slide a bar over in your desired overclocking tool. That was actually one of the cheapest 560's on Newegg, that's why I picked it. Unless you want some garbage looking Palit with an orange fan. I think that one was still more than a 6950.

So what was your point again? That a 560 TI is better value than a 6950? No matter how many ways you try to spin it, you are wrong, it's not.
At $230, it is. With the price increasing now to $240, no.
    
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No recommendation on the $155 dollar one... What about the Sapphire Xtreme 5850? That card is the best bang for the buck out there right now plus you can now overvolt it.
Pretty much this. And for enthusiasts, you can use a 6950 WC block and WC it for 100 bucks. That's less than the original HD 5850's went on Sale for. Hell, my Sapphire 5850 cost me 225 4-5 months ago. The extreme edition beats it in every category and is cheap to WC (100 bucks for the block).

Best bang for the buck: Sapphire 5850 HD Extreme by far.
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Like the fact that they compare the Radeon HD 6870 to the GTX 560 Ti? Or the fact that they put the Radeon HD 6790 and the GTX 460 768MB as being "similar"? Or the fact that the article states the best card and tries to cheat by using CrossFire/SLI?
Oh right. Well who cares about articles at Tom's anyway..
    
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Not everyone lives in the US.
whaaaa?

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Tom's articles are never that good anyway, and who here even bothers taking in what they say in these monthly charts?.. You can usually find everything in there for less than their prices.
I admit I used to base my card decisions on their articles, but their logic didn't always match my needs. (and I'm a closet nvidia fanboy)
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People always bash tom's. Why bash them? There charts are consistant with their benchmark results. DEAL WITH IT.
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