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Originally Posted by Darksoul844;13438308 
what he said atleast 3.5 and get a 470(200$) that's better imo. or if you can find a used 480 for around 250-275.

The 480 would bottleneck unless his CPU was maxed out 24/7. Think of it like a 295. What would you need to max out a 295? If it doesn't bottleneck that card, you're pretty much good to go. biggrin.gif

Personally, I'd go for the 470 because of the higher shader core count. I've seen how close the 560 gets but the added shader count aids in games as far as I've seen. The minimum framerate is higher for me due to this.
     
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Would there be a significant difference leaving my CPU at stock clocks vs OC'ing it over 3GHz? I'm not an overly fussy gamer and will sacrifice some reflections in-game if it means I can play at a steady, fluid pace..

I would say there would be a pretty large difference. You really should OC the CPU up at least a little to take advantage of a card of your caliber. 3.2ghz is pretty easy (400fsb with a multi of 8) with your board, so I see no reason not to unless cooling is poor.
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480's for 225 in the ocn marketplace.
    
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Yes it will. Even if you OC to 3.6, the GPU will still be bottlenecked. Wont matter for most games but it will be bottlenecked none-the less.

I just upgraded from a Q6600 @3.6 and my GPU is about on par with a 560 so I speak from experience.
    
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Originally Posted by lyster;13438368 
It's no great crime to have a slight bottleneck of course, but it's just a waste of power if your card is 'constantly' being held back.

Agreed, but I can tell you that everyone's system is bottlenecked to some degree. It is always the case that both CPU and GPU hold back performance, it just depends which is happening more.

I would really only start to care if someone started mixing very high-end with very low end hardware. If you have recent/decent high-mid range kit, then neither your CPU or GPU will hold you back enough to worry about it. Stick with your Q6600 and get the 560Ti. For high-res gaming, upgrading your GPU will always make a difference if you have a semi-decent quad, which you more than do.

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Having recently, made the switch from an 8800 GTX to a GTX 560Ti, the difference in GPU power is staggering.

However, we've got a slight apples-to-oranges comparison here since you're running the Q6600 @ 2.4Ghz whereas I'm running mine at 3.6Ghz. The difference really is quite noticeable and during my benching runs, I found the most significant FPS gains to be at the 2.4Ghz - >3Ghz overclock,.with somewhat diminishing returns above that.

Also, like others have stated, the game's ability to utilize the four cores will play a huge impact as well.

I would take another serious look at squeezing some extra juice out of the Quad, but otherwise, yes, it'll be bottlenecking the 560 Ti. How much? It mostly depends on the application/its coding.

But as a caveat, you can find the MSI Twin Frozr II GTX 560Ti on Newegg for $180 (open box) if you keep your eyes open. My card is not a high overclocker, but you can squeeze an extra 10-15% out of it if needed. I think your upgrade plan is solid. Take the small hit of getting a GREAT upper-level, mainstream graphics card now to improve your performance with current games. Then, upgrade the big stuff (Mobo/CPU/RAM) next year, and by that time you could either pick up another 560Ti to SLI them for cheap, or just sell it and put some money towards a better single-gpu solution.
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I had a 470 and a Q6600 @ 3.6 and there was a huge bottleneck.
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i've ran a q6600 with a 470 in a 780i with 4GB DDR2 800.......Delta is right.....from 2.4 (266x9x1066FSB) to around 3.2 (400x8x1600FSB) the gain is very noticeable.......after that i only saw gains in 3D mark........in games they were very tiny(5~6%), but the voltage required was not worth it, unless you are on water.......also the gains from 3.2 (400x8x1600FSB) to 3.6 (400x9x1600FSB) was very small......now using a QX6850 with an unlocked multiplier, i left FSB at a stock 1333 and just used the multiplier to overclock.......at 4.0 (333x12x1333FSB), the fps in games were lower than with 3.6 (400x9=1600), and about equal with 3.2 (400x8=1600).......so imo 3.2 (400x8=1600) is the absolute minimum for a GTX470, and 1600FSB on 775 in general for newer cards
    
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The worst-case scenario with a CPU BN created by upgrading to a higher-end single card is that you get the same FPS you get now ... only you're able to achieve these same FPS with much higher image quality settings. But the worst-case scenario will be relatively rare.

All in all even at stock a q6600 is fairly adequate for a single 560. Don't expect to break any benching records, but the gaming experience should still be quite good in nearly all cases, and you'll def. be able to increase the IQ settings significantly from those you can now run.

As others mentioned, it would definitely be of benefit to revisit OC'ing that CPU. Most q6600's will do 3.2GHz on pretty much any decent board, esp. if you have PC8500 ram. It's just a matter of getting everything dialed in correctly, esp. the cpu voltage, memory voltage, memory timings, and memory multiplier.
    
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What kind of bottlenecks are we talking anyways? Would the framerate stutter or show any visible signs? I'm primarily concerned about new games such as the witcher2.
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