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So I've had my rig for almost 2 years now, and I've been using a radeon 5770 hooked up to an old LG 22 inch 1680x1050 monitor. I don't plan on upgrading the monitor any time soon, since for me, its good enough for the near and potentially far future.

However, with the new, more graphics intensive games coming out, should I look to upgrade my graphics card soon? I appreciate visuals alot, and as much as possible id like to game on max settings(but not that much AA and AF, since I've read that it doesn't produce much diff versus the amount of stress it puts on the GPU). I haven't experienced lag YET(although assassin's creed brotherhood seemed to slow down at some points...but maybe that was really the game and not my gpu. BUT, the case did get hot), but I was just wondering, given my GPU and CPU(Phenom II x3 720), should I upgrade to a faster GPU soon? Remeber, I'll be gaming in 1680x1050.

Or should I look to upgrade my cpu instead?

Help would be much appreciated!
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post #2 of 13
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Originally Posted by angelo88 View Post
So I've had my rig for almost 2 years now, and I've been using a radeon 5770 hooked up to an old LG 22 inch 1680x1050 monitor. I don't plan on upgrading the monitor any time soon, since for me, its good enough for the near and potentially far future.

However, with the new, more graphics intensive games coming out, should I look to upgrade my graphics card soon? I appreciate visuals alot, and as much as possible id like to game on max settings(but not that much AA and AF, since I've read that it doesn't produce much diff versus the amount of stress it puts on the GPU). I haven't experienced lag YET(although assassin's creed brotherhood seemed to slow down at some points...but maybe that was really the game and not my gpu. BUT, the case did get hot), but I was just wondering, given my GPU and CPU(Phenom II x3 720), should I upgrade to a faster GPU soon? Remeber, I'll be gaming in 1680x1050.

Or should I look to upgrade my cpu instead?

Help would be much appreciated!
The thing is, if you plan on making a substantial upgrade to your graphics card you will most likely be bottlenecking it with your processor. I would like to know more about how much you are willing to spend on an upgrade before I talk further and suggest routes to take.
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well, if I do upgrade, ill probably do it by steps. So either cpu or gpu now, then the other a few months later. I don't need extreme hardware, I just want Ideally the best hardware (performance and price taken into consideration) needed to be able to play games on max sans too high AA and AF on my monitor for the years to come. I'm willing to spend around $250-$300 at a time.

And ideally keep it to AMD cpus, if ever I'll have to upgrade my cpu

thanks for the help!
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I swear someone has posted this before..

... multiple times..

Well since you've got a 5770, do you think it'd be a good idea to spend an extra 100 bucks (if you can HOPEFULLY find one for 100, friend got his for that much out of MY wallet) and Crossfire that. It definitely hits budget end gaming for you.

Also I've never experienced any CPU to bottleneck me badly. Only difference is really, comparing a single core to a dual core.
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The thing is, if you plan on making a substantial upgrade to your graphics card you will most likely be bottlenecking it with your processor
And correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read, the processor doesn't do as much work in games as does the GPU. And I've noticed that as well. During gaming my cpu stays at around the 60-70 mark...or is there something else going on that I don't know about?

sorry, im kinda new to the technical side of gaming
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post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by angelo88 View Post
well, if I do upgrade, ill probably do it by steps. So either cpu or gpu now, then the other a few months later. I don't need extreme hardware, I just want Ideally the best hardware (performance and price taken into consideration) needed to be able to play games on max sans too high AA and AF on my monitor for the years to come. I'm willing to spend around $250-$300 at a time.

And ideally keep it to AMD cpus, if ever I'll have to upgrade my cpu

thanks for the help!
I would then most likely suggest upgrading the gpu now then the cpu/mobo later(mainly because new processors are coming out shortly). The 6950 is a great choice as the majority can be successfully unlocked to within 3% performance of the 6970. You can simply do this by just re-flashing the 6950's firmware to the 6970's and there is many articles in which graphics card to get and how to do it. Then just wait for some of the new amd processors to be released and make an upgrade there.
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Normally what I should be seeing is that the processor loads a lot to keep up with the GPU (I've never seen a dual core load so much before when I tried one out at Memory Express) unless it's a 2.2 to 2.6 GHz dual core.. and a not very demanding CPU game, but rather GPU demanding. Most of the games I play are GPU demanding anyways, but keep that triple for now, wait for Bulldozer and see.
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post #8 of 13
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awryt, thanks for the tips. Yeah I was thinking of waiting it out for the new processors to come out. K then, I shall start looking for a good GPU upgrade. Thanks for the help!
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post #9 of 13
1680x1050 performs similar to 1080p.

just for ref.
post #10 of 13
Speaking of 1680x1050s, I've been using this 1050 since late 2008. Bundled with my HTPC (HP) for $20.

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