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btw dont be scared to push to 1000mV aslong as your temps dont sky rocket when its in furmark!

btw with the 6850. i think that means the OC was unstable and your drivers would crash.
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btw dont be scared to push to 1000mV aslong as your temps dont sky rocket when its in furmark!

btw with the 6850. i think that means the OC was unstable and your drivers would crash.
The 6850 was stock... and I pushed my OC on the SE to 875core and 1000mV. I've pushed it up to 960 core and 1075mV before Don't need that much power and my temps go up to 75c
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The 6850 was stock... and I pushed my OC on the SE to 875core and 1000mV. I've pushed it up to 960 core and 1075mV before Don't need that much power and my temps go up to 75c
ohh. cuz i had the same thing happend with my 5770 with GTA 4. it was perfectly fine with bc2 and other games but drivers would crash constantly.

i feel like 75 is fine if you want the FPS unless you play for 7-9 hours at a time xD
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If this happens again, try to alt/tab to your desktop, and then alt/tab or click the game in the tool bar to see if your FPS jumps back up.

I do agree with needing more voltage, possibly. However, if I were to pick what was unstable, I would pick the memory, although on stock voltage, I could only get to 825/1650 GPU/Shadder.

I cannot get my memory past 1825 even when I used to be on air. I can on furmark, but not when playing games or doing 3D Mark 11 runs.

2000MHz memory and 850MHz GPU seems like a mute point to run your memory that high. I do not feel you would notice much, if any improvement over 1800 on that GPU clock.

EDIT: Keep your fan at 70% when gaming at those clocks! Are you letting it go lower suring gaming?
 
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If this happens again, try to alt/tab to your desktop, and then alt/tab or click the game in the tool bar to see if your FPS jumps back up.

I do agree with needing more voltage, possibly. However, if I were to pick what was unstable, I would pick the memory, although on stock voltage, I could only get to 825/1650 GPU/Shadder.

I cannot get my memory past 1825 even when I used to be on air. I can on furmark, but not when playing games or doing 3D Mark 11 runs.

2000MHz memory and 850MHz GPU seems like a mute point to run your memory that high. I do not feel you would notice much, if any improvement over 1800 on that GPU clock.

EDIT: Keep your fan at 70% when gaming at those clocks! Are you letting it go lower suring gaming?
It's funny how we have the same rig pretty much. Is your SE under water? And how are you cooling your B55 @ 4.4ghz? I'm trying to hit 4.0Ghz and my cooler's an N520. Look at the picture above and check out Temp #2, that's my temp at full load and I live in Florida.
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Great, now I'm getting crappy FPS in everything even @ stock clocks. If I reset my PC it'll all be back to normal.


I'm really clueless at this point. Anybody with prior experience?
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Restart... When your OC fails, the card sometimes won't accept new clock settings. I think it goes in to a safety mode and downclocks to 405/810.

I will comment on your other stuff now.
 
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It's funny how we have the same rig pretty much. Is your SE under water? And how are you cooling your B55 @ 4.4ghz? I'm trying to hit 4.0Ghz and my cooler's an N520. Look at the picture above and check out Temp #2, that's my temp at full load and I live in Florida.
I have a MCW80 waterblock on the GPU and heatsinks on all the chips on the card. I regret not buying a full waterblock to cover the memory chips, but I was able to squeeze out an additional 100MHz vs stock cooling/MX-4 TIM as-is.

My X4 B55 is a dream chip! I cool it with water and the block is in my sig rig. I run at around 45C under load. I have a 120 and a 240 RAD in the water loop. When I just had the 240 RAD, I was around 49C.

Temp 2 is likely your Mosfets/VRM and is not your processor. I used to have a Gigabyte board and that is what Temp 2 was on mine. I had a GA-MA785G-US2H. I must warn you! Your board really cannot handle much more overclocking! 80C is really stressing your mosfets/vrm's. Take a look at this thread.

Temp 1 is your CPU socket. To get a better temp reading, turn off ACC and set the cpu back to X2 555. Put your cpu under load and meassure the gap between the core temps and your socket (Temp #1). Usually the core temps are about 6C less than the socket temp.

You can then use Temp #1 while you are in B55 mode and make the proper adjustment for a better estimate of your core temps. Per your ss, your max temp was 43, so with a 6C drop, your actual core temp would be around 37C. Do not use my 6C result. Measure your own!

Lastly, I warn you once more. It looks like your Mosfets/VRM at the lowest 80C. You are really pushing it with that board on an X4 B55 even at stock voltage and it shows very clearly!

My old boards power was very similar. After 1 month at X4 B55 4.2 and 1.4125v, my Mosfets and VRM's started whining like the sound of data being read/written on a hard drive. It was at that very point I decided to upgrade to avoid potential Power failure and hardware damage! That board still is working, but it is holding a Sempron 3800+ now.
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I have a MCW80 waterblock on the GPU and heatsinks on all the chips on the card. I regret not buying a full waterblock to cover the memory chips, but I was able to squeeze out an additional 100MHz vs stock cooling/MX-4 TIM as-is.

My X4 B55 is a dream chip! I cool it with water and the block is in my sig rig. I run at around 45C under load. I have a 120 and a 240 RAD in the water loop. When I just had the 240 RAD, I was around 49C.

Temp 2 is likely your Mosfets/VRM and is not your processor. I used to have a Gigabyte board and that is what Temp 2 was on mine. I had a GA-MA785G-US2H. I must warn you! Your board really cannot handle much more overclocking! 80C is really stressing your mosfets/vrm's. Take a look at this thread.

Temp 1 is your CPU socket. To get a better temp reading, turn off ACC and set the cpu back to X2 555. Put your cpu under load and messure the gap between the core temps and your socket (Temp #1). Usually the core temps are about 6C less than the socket temp.

You can then use Temp #1 while you are in B55 mode and make the proper adjustment for a better estimate of your core temps. Per your ss, your max temp was 43, so with a 6C drop, your actual core temp would be around 37C. Do not use my 6C result. Measure your own!

Lastly, I warn you once more. It looks like your Mosfets/VRM at the lowest 80C. You are really pushing it with that board on an X4 B55 even at stock voltage and it shows very clearly!

My old boards power was very similar. After 1 month at X4 B55 4.2 and 1.4125v, my Mosfets and VRM's started whining like the sound of data being read/written on a hard drive. It was at that very point I decided to upgrade to avoid potential Power failure and hardware damage! That board still is working, but it is holding a Sempron 3800+ now.

Understandable. And I meant to say TMPIN #1 being my temperature, I checked TMPIN #1 as a dual and a quad, they're pretty much the same. The quad is just a little hotter (1-2C). I'm very content with B55 as I didn't need to do absolutely anything besides increasing the multiplier to reach 3.6. It's the first thing I did, never tried getting it above 3.6, though. I'll try whenever I have the patience.


I'll check the VRM temps (#2) after I lock it down to a dual again.


Anyways, update!
I bumped mV's to 1000, core to 875 and memory down to 1825. After playing Crysis for an approximate hour, it all happened again. It's an issue related to GPU load, it jumps to 99 and down to 45 or even 10 sometimes. Any fix for that?
Edited by OptimusCaik - 5/9/11 at 12:20pm
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When it happens, close crysis and open furmark and start a benchmark. Look on the right side and tell me if your clock speeds are still at what you set them too.

You could also try a new driver. How long ago did you start playing the game and what is the longest amount of time you have played without any problems?

Is there any patches available for the game?
 
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