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post #41 of 76
This is more like a for-the-fail edition....
No improved VRMs? Dropped clocks?
You're better off buying a regular 3GB 580 and putting a good EK block on it... probably cost less, and will certainly run faster.
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You are clearly not reading what goldboy is saying

He is saying that cards from EVGA branded with the "FTW" logo should offer more than what you get with this card. In other words, it should be a non-reference design with more memory, better VRM's, binned to find the best chips etc.

But currently all they are doing is getting a GTX 580 3GB and slapping a Swiftech wb on it and branding it as "FTW" when the only difference between it and any other 3GB model is the waterblock. And anyone can buy a non-FTW 3GB card and put their own wb on the card for less than EVGA are charging.

I believe that is what goldboy is trying to say.

Now on topic, too late and too expensive. I've never seen the point in the FTW cards. You're better off getting a non-FTW EVGA card and then getting your own EK or Koolance block. It's cheaper, doesn't void the warranty and performs better than the Swiftech block on the FTW cards.
Adding an after-market waterblock to the the reference cards voids the warranty. The FTW cards are the only ones warrantied for water cooling. (This concerns EVGA, some other manufacturers may differ.)



One thing about the quality of components is that no matter how much you spend you won't be able to get 100% reliability out of the components or even the chips for that matter. Just because a chip is higher binned or is tested to perform doesn't mean it won't die tomorrow. It just has a higher probability for surviving a longer amount of time. There is a possibility there is going to be some failures and that is when the warranty comes in.

I won't touch on MSI's "Military Class Components" which is kind of a joke. But your conclusion is an assumption. I wouldn't fully conclude that a company isn't doing something because they don't advertise it. Frankly, I think companies saying they use good components is kind of corny and redundant. They are basically saying that the reference components are crap and you shouldn't trust them. It might not be EVGA's style to criticize the reference design.

The warranty and good customer service is there. Whether you want to pay for it, even if you don't use it, is up to you. For a lot of consumers those two aspects are key in their purchase, for others it's not. It's a personal choice and not worth arguing over.
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what a ridiculous price. anything more than $400 is just way to much for a graphics card.
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post #44 of 76
Looked through all the post and couldn't find anyone who said anything about it being single slot. Thats got to be worth a extra premium.
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People forget that the single slot bracket and the back plate are $30 if you buy them at the EVGA website. Its still overprice but its still worth it to some people. They are really nice looking cards.
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Adding an after-market waterblock to the the reference cards voids the warranty. The FTW cards are the only ones warrantied for water cooling. (This concerns EVGA, some other manufacturers may differ.)



He makes a good point.

One thing about the quality of components is that no matter how much you spend you won't be able to get 100% reliability out of the components or even the chips for that matter. Just because a chip is higher binned or is tested to perform doesn't mean it won't die tomorrow. It just has a higher probability for surviving a longer amount of time. There is a possibility there is going to be some failures and that is when the warranty comes in.

I won't touch on MSI's "Military Class Components" which is kind of a joke. But your conclusion is an assumption. I wouldn't fully conclude that a company isn't doing something because they don't advertise it. Frankly, I think companies saying they use good components is kind of corny and redundant. They are basically saying that the reference components are crap and you shouldn't trust them. It might not be EVGA's style to criticize the reference design.

The warranty and good customer service is there. Whether you want to pay for it, even if you don't use it, is up to you. For a lot of consumers those two aspects are key in their purchase, for others it's not. It's a personal choice and not worth arguing over.

When I talked about binning I was talking about whether the GPU could perform reliably at higher clocks than others, not necessarily last longer. But apparently they even clocked this card down to reference values, instead of the 850Mhz from some of the air cooled models they have. Supposedly a water-cooled card could handle the heat better than stock settings, no ? Kind of a weird way to market a $700+ card.

As to MSI's Military Class Components, I can't speak much for them, since I never had one, but from what I've read around there, you might be exaggerating a little bit. They have some problems with AMD motherboards with 4+1 VRM designs (especially when overclocking), but their Intel boards and especially their GPU's seem to be ok. Twin Frozr cards seem to be very popular nowadays too.

Secondly, the failure rate of the chip itself is way less than the components on the card. VRM's, capacitors, chokes, all are a lot more vulnerable. And that's why it matters to also have good quality components.

I bought a GTX480 for a great price a few weeks ago. It's a Gigabyte reference model. It does not have the Ultra Durable moniker. Sure, the capacitors are all solid state and it has a very dependable 6+1 VRM design, but that is what the reference model calls for. But when you look at the chokes, they are not ferrite core chokes. No, they are exposed coils. Fortunately my card doesn't whine at all. But I've heard people complaining of reference cards whining. The last one was an EVGA GTX570 from a member here at OCN. Guess where the whine is coming from ? It may not affect the working of the card, but it's annoying. Providing quality components not only makes the card more reliable, but also gives you more quality time while playing. Bear in mind I'm not complaining of the card I bought; I knew what I was buying, and it was for a great price. But that is the point. If someone comes here and argues that "maybe" EVGA is using better components than the reference ones, I'm sorry, but that is not very reassuring.

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Frankly, I think companies saying they use good components is kind of corny and redundant. They are basically saying that the reference components are crap and you shouldn't trust them.
Frankly, I think you are missing the point. Reference designs are supposed to be cost-effective. They are not supposed to be top notch. They are made with x% of failure rate in mind, and with a given x% of overclock margin, but nothing spectacular.

If you want better, you will have to give the card better components. Does GTX570 and GTX590 + reference design VRM's ring a bell ?
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When I talked about binning I was talking about whether the GPU could perform reliably at higher clocks than others, not necessarily last longer. But apparently they even clocked this card down to reference values, instead of the 850Mhz from some of the air cooled models they have. Supposedly a water-cooled card could handle the heat better than stock settings, no ? Kind of a weird way to market a $700+ card.

Secondly, the failure rate of the chip itself is way less than the components on the card. VRM's, capacitors, chokes, all are a lot more vulnerable. And that's why it matters to also have good quality components.

I bought a GTX480 for a great price a few weeks ago. It's a Gigabyte reference model. It does not have the Ultra Durable moniker. Sure, the capacitors are all solid state and it has a very dependable 6+1 VRM design, but that is what the reference model calls for. But when you look at the chokes, they are not ferrite core chokes. No, they are exposed coils. Fortunately my card doesn't whine at all. But I've heard people complaining of reference cards whining. The last one was an EVGA GTX570 from a member here at OCN. Guess where the whine is coming from ? It may not affect the working of the card, but it's annoying. Providing quality components not only makes the card more reliable, but also gives you more quality time while playing.

Frankly, I think you are missing the point. Reference designs are supposed to be cost-effective. They are not supposed to be top notch. They are made with x% of failure rate in mind, and with a given x% of overclock margin, but nothing spectacular.

If you want better, you will have to give the card better components. Does GTX570 and GTX590 + reference design VRM's ring a bell ?
Again, assumptions.

Just got off the phone w/Evga and I completely disagree, once again.

These cards are under-clocked for the same exact reasons the 590's are (My office happens to have 8 590s and 12 580 3gbs)...Overclocking is YOUR choice.

You are covered by the warranty if you choose to overclock but BEYOND ref. clocks, it is your personal decision to take it that far, theirs if they choose to do so. They didn't.

I don't really care if you have issues with their stock clocks...So they didn't release a standardized overclocked version...Your assumption is they won't perform and it's unfounded.

You have no inside knowledge of any component they used beyond the fact "Uhhhh, they didn't advertise it so, it's not possible"...That's down-right ignorant.

The 590's are currently locked VIA drivers because 100s of morons on release day decided to cook their cards. This is a fact. RMA's were in mass and NVIDIA slammed the door shut VIA several means.

Obviously (again, just got off the phone) they don't want a repeat of that and who's to blame them?

Let the customer decide if he/she is going to run those clocks...It's not your decision so, I don't rightly see how you care?

Secondly, I just ordered an A batch of BNIB 980x's from a vendor that just happened to have them on his shelf...A batch, imagine that? ~ I paid premium...1 out of 12 actually didn't have to be RMA'd...Just because you buy the best, doesn't guarentee a 100% functioning product by any means.

Warranties matter and a lifetime warranty from a company where I can call instantly and have an RMA as a consumer (Not even calling as a vendor) is a big deal in the public's eyes...I'd pay to see you to get an Asus RMA as fast as an end user can get an EVGA RMA.
Edited by Masked - 5/10/11 at 1:27pm
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Again, assumptions.

Just got off the phone w/Jacob@Evga and I completely disagree, once again.

These cards are under-clocked for the same exact reasons the 590's are (My office happens to have 8 590s and 12 580 3gbs)...Overclocking is YOUR choice.

You are covered by the warranty if you choose to overclock but BEYOND ref. clocks, it is your personal decision to take it that far, theirs if they choose to do so. They didn't.

I don't really care if you have issues with their stock clocks...So they didn't release a standardized overclocked version...Your assumption is they won't perform and it's unfounded.

You have no inside knowledge of any component they used beyond the fact "Uhhhh, they didn't advertise it so, it's not possible"...That's down-right ignorant.

The 590's are currently locked VIA drivers because 100s of morons on release day decided to cook their cards. This is a fact. RMA's were in mass and NVIDIA slammed the door shut VIA several means.

Obviously (again, just got off the phone) they don't want a repeat of that and who's to blame them?

Let the customer decide if he/she is going to run those clocks...It's not your decision so, I don't rightly see how you care?

Secondly, I just ordered an A batch of BNIB 980x's from a vendor that just happened to have them on his shelf...A batch, imagine that? ~ I paid premium...1 out of 12 actually didn't have to be RMA'd...Just because you buy the best, doesn't guarentee a 100% functioning product in any means.

Warranties matter and a lifetime warranty from a company where I can call instantly and have an RMA as a consumer (Not even calling as a vendor) is a big deal in the public's eyes...I'd pay to see you to get an Asus RMA as fast as an end user can get an EVGA RMA.

Just as a side note, I made a few additions to my post while you were writing yours, so you might not have read everything.


Back to replying:


Yes' I'm making an assumption the cards just use reference design components, it's an educated assumption. And you know why ? Because like I wrote in the edit I made to the post, when someone like you comes here without any sort of proof and says that EVGA maybe put some better components, I'm sorry but that is not very reassuring. That is not even half a fact, that is just faith and not objective consumer information, of which you have provided none. Did your phone call give you any details regarding that part of the equation ?

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You have no inside knowledge of any component they used beyond the fact "Uhhhh, they didn't advertise it so, it's not possible"...That's down-right ignorant.
I didn't say it was impossible. That is you putting words in my mouth and derailing the argument. But I'll tell you something: you bet I am ignorant. Because I completely ignore if they use better components than the ones the reference design calls for. Because they don't inform the consumer. That is why I'm ignorant. But you are as ignorant as I am, it's an objective fact. When the rest of the industry is very proud to note when it uses better components than reference, EVGA stays quiet.

Why am I supposed to believe the exact opposite of what the rest of the industry does without concrete proof ? Faith ? Go call them on the phone again and come back with an answer. Since they are so helpful they might enlighten us.


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These cards are under-clocked for the same exact reasons the 590's are
Did they really tell you that ? Oh my. Because from what I've heard the GTX590 has a big problem with an insufficient VRM design. And that is not the case AT ALL with the GTX580.


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You are covered by the warranty if you choose to overclock but BEYOND ref. clocks, it is your personal decision to take it that far, theirs if they choose to do so. They didn't.
Hmmm ? Care to reformulate ? Your sentence does not make sense.


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I don't really care if you have issues with their stock clocks...So they didn't release a standardized overclocked version...Your assumption is they won't perform and it's unfounded.
I'm not assuming it won't perform. I'm just saying it's weird to sell a card for so much money with a water block on it and put reference clocks on it when they have air cooled cards with higher clocks. Why did they do this ? Are they afraid the VRM's won't handle the load because they didn't make the memory VRM's beefier to handle the added VRAM better ? And by the way, I'm not assuming, just asking. It's a fact more VRAM uses more power, so the question is not without reason. But it's a question, not an assumption.


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The 590's are currently locked VIA drivers because 100s of morons on release day decided to cook their cards. This is a fact. RMA's were in mass and NVIDIA slammed the door shut VIA several means.

Obviously (again, just got off the phone) they don't want a repeat of that and who's to blame them?

Let the customer decide if he/she is going to run those clocks...It's not your decision so, I don't rightly see how you care?
The 590's are locked because their VRM design sucks and their first driver version didn't implement the protection properly. So, that is two problems. They solved the second, but the first is still there.

More: they should have implemented a full hardware protection/limitation like AMD. They didn't. The hardware they implemented only monitors but does nothing to prevent damage. A stupid approach they will probably address with Kepler. But that is Nvidia's fault, not EVGA, of course.

That fact, coupled with weak VRM's and a buggy first driver was a spell for disaster. Not morons who bought these cards. How many morons have been knocking on Nvidia's doors with faulty GTX580's with the same problem ?

And EVGA told you they don't want a repeat of the same problem ? Sorry, that does not compute. We are talking about GTX580's here, not GTX 590's. Or have they been having lots of problems with the vendor overclocked GTX580's they were selling ? Is that the problem ? That would be a completely different story and explain a lot of things. But as it is their/your version of the story doesn't make sense. Ask them to better explain that too.
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Let us know if you can OC them to 850-900 with Afterburner or similar when you get it since some seem to be implying that their VRMs or whatever are inferior which is why they underclocked them.
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Lets sum it up:

user: goldboy had a major case of evga pride and then claimed that the 580 HC2 has special features
It was then found out that the HC2 was simply the ref 580 3gb with the swiftech cooler.
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