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So I got this Motherboard for free from microcenter. I picked it mainly because it has plenty of pci and pci-e x1 slots for expansion cards.

Things I have in mind for this computer to do.

1. Hard drive storage at least 10-12 drives (not counting ports on the board)
2. Able to host a small website.
3. firewall ?
4. Ripping blue rays and dvds
5. Have an esata multi port card for my icydock MB561US-4S-1

Operating system + software

I have pretty much set my mind on a 16gb flash drive running some version of linux as the operating system. Is linux the best choice, and if so what flavor ?

Any software recommendations ?

Sata II cards

Any recommendations on SATA II controller cards ? They are rather expensive, do you think eBay would be a good place to look ?

I have come across this and this. However they don't seem to be that high quality and got poor reviews. If I could get a single card for a little more money than 3 cards that would be great for future expandability.

Firewall

I can honestly say I have not looked much into this, all I know is I will need two Ethernet ports. A little help in this area would be greatly appreciated.

esata port multiplier card

Pretty much set on this card. Any other recommendations ?

Hard drives

I am guessing that I will have to have all the hard drives in a type of software RAID. Does software RAID care about having the exact same hard drive ?

I want to get a bunch of 2tb Samsung F4 drives, but because of the recent Seagate buyout it makes me worried that when I go to expand I will be unable to find the drive anywhere.

Thanks for all the help.

Edit: I have an email from newegg with a coupon in it.

20% OFF 3ware/LSI/Rosewill/Areca Controller Cards
Using coupon code BTEKEKA32

Edited by Somenamehere - 5/10/11 at 9:05am
    
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a poppular server os is Amahi http://www.amahi.org
on software raid, i know that some like Windows home server(wich distribution exactly i dont remember) have support for different sized hardrives
    
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You should be able to use LVM in any one of the linux distros you choose to manually increase your drive size when adding new drives. Websites should be easy, just install apache, php, and any other packages you see fit. As for ripping blu rays, I don't know of linux apps that do this. I'm sure they're out there, but not sure where. with whatever linux distro you choose, you could easily setup the router, dhcp, however other than using IPtables, not sure what firewall services linux has or, can be added to the system. What CPU are you planning on using in this to control all of these services, and how much ram?
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You should be able to use LVM in any one of the linux distros you choose to manually increase your drive size when adding new drives. Websites should be easy, just install apache, php, and any other packages you see fit. As for ripping blu rays, I don't know of linux apps that do this. I'm sure they're out there, but not sure where. with whatever linux distro you choose, you could easily setup the router, dhcp, however other than using IPtables, not sure what firewall services linux has or, can be added to the system. What CPU are you planning on using in this to control all of these services, and how much ram?
I have an unlocked 555 and 6gb of ram

Thanks for the help both of you.
    
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I would suggest looking into ClearOS,it has all the features your looking for,but I'm unsure if it can be run off a flashdrive.Are the cards just to add ports?Make sure that they support Linux OS's.I can't comment on the eSATA.

If your worried about Samsung down the line then look to WD imo.FreeNas is another OS I'd look into,as far as ripping DVD/Blurays there's plenty of 3rd party software for linux distro's that can do this.

http://www.clearfoundation.com/Software/overview.html
 
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I would suggest looking into ClearOS,it has all the features your looking for,but I'm unsure if it can be run off a flashdrive.Are the cards just to add ports?Make sure that they support Linux OS's.I can't comment on the eSATA.

If your worried about Samsung down the line then look to WD imo.FreeNas is another OS I'd look into,as far as ripping DVD/Blurays there's plenty of 3rd party software for linux distro's that can do this.

http://www.clearfoundation.com/Software/overview.html
I will look into ClearOS thanks

The cards are just for adding ports yes. Does anyone know of some good brands/model # I could look for used on ebay?
    
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I dont mean to double post but...

Would it be feasible to buy a 4 port SAS raid card and hook it up all the SATA II connectors on the 12 hard drives ?

Would this controller card LSI Logic LSI00168
Work with this cable


So I could have 4 x 4 = 16 hard drives ? If it does would performance suffer ?
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I dont mean to double post but...

Would it be feasible to buy a 4 port SAS raid card and hook it up all the SATA II connectors on the 12 hard drives ?

Would this controller card LSI Logic LSI00168
Work with this cable


So I could have 4 x 4 = 16 hard drives ? If it does would performance suffer ?
You would be limited to however fast PCI-E x4 is. Not sure of the throughput. But LSI is a popular Raid card manufacturer, and I'm fairly certain they generally get good reviews. Where I work it's all virtual servers, so the drive raiding is done by our SAN, which I don't take care of. And of course the physical servers are Dell, so they use their own Perc cards.
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Never had the need to used one but I've only heard good things about the Dell Perc 5/i raid card.I know it supports at-least 8 drives,someone else may be able to tell you exactly how many it supports for sure.Also what raid level are you looking to run?

http://computers.shop.ebay.com/i.htm....c0.m270.l1313

http://www.overclock.net/raid-contro...card-tips.html
 
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Never had the need to used one but I've only heard good things about the Dell Perc 5/i raid card.I know it supports at-least 8 drives,someone else may be able to tell you exactly how many it supports for sure.Also what raid level are you looking to run?

http://computers.shop.ebay.com/i.htm....c0.m270.l1313

http://www.overclock.net/raid-contro...card-tips.html
I will most likely have everything running in software raid. This raid card is mostly going to be used just to enable all the drives.

The info on that raid card says it can support 122 physical drives. Just wondering how you can hook that many up.
    
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