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What setup do I need to get the best out of these?

I have a Tianyun Zero Dac V2 plugged into my PC via USB, what upgrades do I need for these headphones?
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The better the source, the better they will sound. People have mixed opinions when it comes to amping Grados, most people say that it doesn't make too much difference; any difference will come from colouring more than improvement of current/power available.

Have you listened to the RS1? I wouldn't recommend buying Grados blind.
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RS1s are great headphones but not everyone. Listened to a pair at a local sound shop that deals in very high end audio gear. I was very impressed.

Love them but way to expensive for me. Ill stick with my SR-80s.
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The better the source, the better they will sound. People have mixed opinions when it comes to amping Grados, most people say that it doesn't make too much difference; any difference will come from colouring more than improvement of current/power available.

Have you listened to the RS1? I wouldn't recommend buying Grados blind.
Unless he's listening to metal which most sources were recorded horribly in and the better the source, the more it'll show how badly the recording was and will sound bad.
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Unless he's listening to metal which most sources were recorded horribly in and the better the source, the more it'll show how badly the recording was and will sound bad.
Using that logic, he shouldn't bother upgrading to the RS1 at all, just stick with some SR60.

To get the best out of the RS1, he should get the best source he can for the money he has.
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I agree, its just so many metal fans regret upgrading their dac for metal. Shows how badly it was recorded. Still, with upgraded opamps, to see significant improvement over the zero dac he's gonna need to spend a lot of money. Which brings us to his budget. What is it? If he was simply asking whether he needs an amp that's a different question.

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I agree, its just so many metal fans regret upgrading their dac for metal. Shows how badly it was recorded. Still, with upgraded opamps, to see significant improvement over the zero dac he's gonna need to spend a lot of money. Which brings us to his budget. What is it? If he was simply asking whether he needs an amp that's a different question.

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Tis true, I used to listen to 90% metal. Then I got into headphones and audio more and over the years it's changed dramatically. I now listen to a lot more variety of music, especially older recordings that aren't plagued by the loudness wars. When I put on a metal song it just feels like something is missing, you don't get the dynamics and the immersive experience. This was especially true for speaker listening, less so with headphones (although I did buy headphones well known for doing well with rock).

That said, I would definitely still look at upgrading your source with those level of headphones - who know, you may discover much more music like I have Amp is low priority imo, grados don't really improve dramatically with the use of one.
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Sorry I have not updated this thread.

I listen to bass heavy music, Dubstep,Electronic, RnB etc.

I am clueless about op amps etc, I have always been interested in audio and audio quality etc, but its always been on-board and some crappy speakers.

I now have some Sony MDR-XB500's, even though there not the best, its a massive difference from my old setup to this with my DAC.

I was just thinking weather I would need a AMP with the DAC, seen as the DAC does amplify well (It turns up so loud the speakers hit the plastic in my headphones) Isn't that not what amplification is?
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Sorry I have not updated this thread.

I listen to bass heavy music, Dubstep,Electronic, RnB etc.

I am clueless about op amps etc, I have always been interested in audio and audio quality etc, but its always been onboard and some crappy speakers.

I now have some Sony MDR-XB500's, even though there not the best, its a massive difference from my old setup to this with my DAC.

I was just thinking weather I would need a AMP with the DAC, seen as the DAC does amplify well (It turns up so load the speakers hit the plastic in my headphones) Isnt that not what amplification is?
You should be looking at other headphones for those genre's of music, while the Grados are good at most genres, I think some closed back headphones would be much better.

What's your budget? I'm assuming in the region of £600? I highly recommend that you go to Audio Affair's open day on Saturday if you can, you will be able to listen to all sorts of higher end headphones, amps and sources (with your own music).

Buying headphones at this level isn't something you should rush into, there are a lot of factors and tastes to take into account and the best way to figure out what you like is by attending something such as that open day.

Regarding amplification, some headphones require more current to create certain frequencies than others. The better an amp is, the better its ability to provide that current as the headphone demands it. What you are describing with your headphones sounds like clipping (or distortion), you're probably playing them too loud.
Edited by TUDJ - 5/11/11 at 4:47am
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Too expensive if you buy retail. So with your genres it may be best to look for other headphones.

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Unless he's listening to metal which most sources were recorded horribly in and the better the source, the more it'll show how badly the recording was and will sound bad.
Yeah, not true in this case.
    
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