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Originally Posted by ZHoob2004 View Post
as far as unix filesystems, I like xfs when dealing with large files (my media server raid1 is xfs)

good listing of the up/down sides http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfs

edit: just did a bit more research and realized it can't be read on windows in any reasonable fashion, so it's probably not what you're looking for.
Yeah sorry mate. Definitely need Windows read/write support.

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ext4 is faster than ext3, great for massive file system far beyond what you're at. You won't have problems with it. Ext4 isn't 'new' anymore.

I too was leary at first but there is a noticeable performance margin you will appreciate for making the leap.
I read that ext3/4 use journaling/more CPU power whereas ext2 doesn't and thus doesn't write as much. Should I be worried about this? Maximum performance isn't really necessary for me, so long as the filesystem can handle files of 100GB or more (will be taking some HDD image backups as well) at decent speeds and has read/write Windows support. Also I would prefer if it was light on my CPU usage.
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Your file system's format doesn't matter if you're setting up a samba server which you should do if you want windows support anyway.

Journaling is a good thing, it's a record of changes that makes any errors easy to detect and correct. If you're running a server it's definitely something you need. Ext4 is just faster than ext3 and will lighter on your system's usage in general. It's mostly about optimisation of data organisation to allow large files and large volume range. Being faster was sort of a benefit by-proxy. The capacities of ext4 are well above your requirements. (1 exabyte volumes, 16Tb files)
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he's not talking about a linux fileserver, he's talking about a set of external drives for his triple boot desktop, no networking involved.
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Ah, I don't see the part about external but that's a moot point anyway.

consider this http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3

It applies to ext4 as well but basically means that when mounting you ext2/3/4 in windows it will be mounted as ext2 and if you BSOD or whatever you'll have to e2fsck in linux to check for errors because it wasn't journaled in windows.

Still Zhoob2004 is probably right about XFS being ideal. It's only limitation is not being able to be resized without repartitioning. Like Ext3/4 it journals so you'll benefit from that in both windows and linux.
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Won't windows be limited to reading from this volume?
    
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Won't windows be limited to reading from this volume?
Umm not that I'm aware of. I think that's a problem with 3TB drives, not 2TB. 2TB are fine for almost all 32bit OSs.

Leaning towards ext3, gonna look around some more first though.
    
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Umm not that I'm aware of. I think that's a problem with 3TB drives, not 2TB. 2TB are fine for almost all 32bit OSs.

Leaning towards ext3, gonna look around some more first though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4

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That's ext4 you're showing. ext3 has the ext ifs driver for Windows (I think that's what it's called) which is the same one I used for ext2, but since ext3 is backwards compatible it should be supported.
    
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