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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi;13498798 
and it's the real car hobbyists that laugh at the ricers because the ricers claim their mods 'boost preformance' and in turn buy gimmicky and overpriced 'preformance' parts when in real life, they don't. The ricers also tend to go on buyer justification rants more. But that said, most Ferraris bought aren't for performance, it's for shallow hollow status. Much like the Beats. Much like Harley Davidsons as well (ask any knowledgeable motorbike person).

lol, we can argue this all day long but you still haven't provided any reputable reviews that claim the Beats Pro's are as bad as you've been claiming, I provided a couple reviews which claimed exactly what I've been claiming.
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link to those reviews?
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi;13498838 
link to those reviews?

You will find these less than credible reviews by searching on google.

Here is one I just found.

http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/review-beats-by-dr-dre-headphones-20080730/
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi;13498838 
link to those reviews?

http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/the-beats-pro-by/4505-7877_7-34210289.html

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374200,00.asp

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-20024049-47.html?tag=mncol;txt

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Originally Posted by youra6;13498857 
You will find these less than credible reviews by searching on google.

Here is one I just found.

http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/review-beats-by-dr-dre-headphones-20080730/
Those are the Studios, NOT the Pros. Two completely different models.
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post #125 of 156
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^^^

Sorry but all those look cheap and ugly to me. There is too much plastic on them and too much paint. Camouflage painted headphones? Really?

Looks are subjective to a large extent, as you have just demonstrated. I can guarantee many would find those options very appealing, they just haven't been marketed like the Beats. You are putty in their corporate hands.
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No, more like why would you spend money on a Hummer when you could spend a few thousand less and get a Jeep thats better for off-roading? Maybe you like the way the Hummer looks more?

rolleyessmileyanim.gif Anyone who is actually purchasing a vehicle for off-roading purposes would get the jeep. When I buy a headphone I am buying it to listen to music/games/etc. That is it's PURPOSE. When someone asks for a recommendation for a headphone, I will recommend the headphone that fulfills that purpose the best, at the best price. People don't ask for recommendations for a stylish accessory that also plays music (you can argue that point all you want, but that's truly what the Beats have become).
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You can play with analogies all day long but your analogies are flawed and aren't accurate. If you aren't going to give evidence to support your claim that the Beats Pro's are "corolla" performance compared to the "ferrari" performance that are your preferred brands, then you can't make that claim. I haven't seen any reviews that claim the difference is that stark.

So you would buy a Corolla with a Ferrari body for $100,000? Sorry for being inaccurate there. I'm trying to use analogies because you are too delusional to understand a straightforward message. I didn't say Ferrari performance, I said body. As in referring to the looks of the headphone. How is this not clear?
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Many of the reviews I've read claim everything I'm claiming. Not that bad for the price point, but there are better options for sound quality, unless you are willing to sacrifice a bit for the style. Definitely not the "corolla versus ferrari" you are claiming, and such a claim makes you sound just as ignorant as the people claiming they are worthless.

If you reread my posts carefully again, you'll in fact notice I never said anywhere that the Beats sounded horrible. Fabricating my statements and calling me ignorant makes it seem as if you are clinging on to the sad realization that you have made a bad purchase, and are now unwilling to admit it. And I wouldn't call $200 extra over a Denon D2000 a "bit of a sacrifice". Not only did you pay twice as much, you got less quality, all for a subjective increase in style. For an item whose purpose is to reproduce sound I cannot fathom how you can justify this.
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and I found a credible one with a good test track with high dynamic range as a test track and measurements too!

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/534236/beats-by-dre-pro-indepth-review

If you don't think a track with a high dynamic range is important:

not the best example but it'll do:

3481725370_8343972dd7.jpg

What one looks better and less fuzzy and clearer looking?
It's exactly the same in audio as both are digital and use exact the same filtering techniques. I mean exactly the same.
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So reviewed by Average Joe on the street (being an editor at CNET doesn't make you an expert on everything) who doesn't specialise in headphones and a PC parts website? Oh really.....
post #128 of 156
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Originally Posted by Iceman23;13498879 
Looks are subjective to a large extent, as you have just demonstrated. I can guarantee many would find those options very appealing, they just haven't been marketed like the Beats. You are putty in their corporate hands.

Hence why I said its all preference, and there is nothing wrong with that. That should go both ways.
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rolleyessmileyanim.gif Anyone who is actually purchasing a vehicle for off-roading purposes would get the jeep. When I buy a headphone I am buying it to listen to music/games/etc. That is it's PURPOSE. When someone asks for a recommendation for a headphone, I will recommend the headphone that fulfills that purpose the best, at the best price. People don't ask for recommendations for a stylish accessory that also plays music (you can argue that point all you want, but that's truly what the Beats have become).

Yeah but what about the people that want both an off-roading vehicle and a vehicle they like the style of, and they like the Hummer? That doesn't make it a bad purchase by any means, that makes that purchase perfect for them. If they don't like the way the Jeep looks, and they like the way the Hummer looks, and that is important to them as well as the off-roading performance, then the Hummer is a great choice because while it is not as good as many Jeep models in off-roading performance, it still holds it own very well.
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Originally Posted by Iceman23;13498879 
So you would buy a Corolla with a Ferrari body for $100,000? Sorry for being inaccurate there. I'm trying to use analogies because you are too delusional to understand a straightforward message. I didn't say Ferrari performance, I said body. As in referring to the looks of the headphone. How is this not clear?

You are referring to the looks and the interior. Your analogy claims that while it has the exterior of a Ferrari, it has the interior of a Corolla. Thats a horribly exaggerated analogy that you haven't supported.
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If you reread my posts carefully again, you'll in fact notice I never said anywhere that the Beats sounded horrible. Fabricating my statements and calling me ignorant makes it seem as if you are clinging on to the sad realization that you have made a bad purchase, and are now unwilling to admit it. And I wouldn't call $200 extra over a Denon D2000 a "bit of a sacrifice". Not only did you pay twice as much, you got less quality, all for a subjective increase in style. For an item whose purpose is to reproduce sound I cannot fathom how you can justify this.

You forget, I said I only paid 200 for them. I have no worries at all about justifying the price I paid for them, I got my money's worth and didn't judge a product based on a dislike of the general consumer base that uses them or off of a lack of experience using them or off of a complete lack of review support. And I justify it the same way I justify spending an extra 100 dollars on my PC case when I could have got the same "functionality" and use out of a case half its price because yes, I preferred the way it look and I wanted a theme for my PC.
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and I found a credible one with a good test track with high dynamic range as a test track and measurements too!

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/534236/beats-by-dre-pro-indepth-review

If you don't think a track with a high dynamic range is important:

not the best example but it'll do:

What one looks better and less fuzzy and clearer looking?
It's exactly the same in audio as both are digital and use exact the same filtering techniques. I mean exactly the same.
Alright, so the best review you have is from a guy with 22 posts on a forum? He states his opinion and I disagree, along with reviewers/websites that have some standing.
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I give up, enjoy your fashion statement man. Ignorance is bliss smile.gif
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I give up, enjoy your fashion statement man. Ignorance is bliss smile.gif

Ok, you enjoy your bandwagon as well! It seems evidence and support isn't enough these days...
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