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Poll Results: Will Linux beat MS/Apple for the rest of the world's general users?

 
  • 38% (40)
    Yes
  • 52% (55)
    No
  • 1% (2)
    What's Linux?
  • 6% (7)
    There's other countries?!
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post #21 of 86
If linux were to be adopted by everyone then it would suck too. Anything that is made for the masses will have to simplified to appeal to the lowest common denominator like the old lady down the street who is buying her first pc. Hell is other people and I hope Linux never gains enough market share to become just another windows or osx.
Edited by cavallino - 5/10/11 at 9:58pm
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post #22 of 86
Keep it civil in here, or the thread wont stay around long.
    
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post #23 of 86
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If linux were to be adopted by everyone then it would suck too. Anything that is made for the masses will have to simplified to appeal to the lowest common denominator like the old lady down the street who is buying her first pc. Hell is other people and I hope Linux never gains enough market share to become just another windows or osx.
It already has, Ubuntu.
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post #24 of 86
Windows won't get phased out in Europe. Most of servers etc the goverment has runs Windows, albeit I've heard of some cases of Linux. As for the general public EVERYONE uses Windows
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post #25 of 86
Well, OSX is just BSD in a pretty dress, and everyone is already using android. But I love my linux, whether it takes over the world or its just me and 20 other "freetards" eating hot pockets in our mothers basement - its all the same to me
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post #26 of 86
Quote:
Originally Posted by cavallino View Post
If linux were to be adopted by everyone then it would suck too. Anything that is made for the masses will have to simplified to appeal to the lowest common denominator like the old lady down the street who is buying her first pc. Hell is other people and I hope Linux never gains enough market share to become just another windows or osx.
Just wait until you see GNOME 3.
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post #27 of 86
Personally, i live in a poor country...
the answer is no....

1. in my country even big company hack window, so window is nearly free.
2. there's very few internet connection.
3. IT shops don't know how to handle linux(low knowledge)
4. they don't buy real product (only crack product)
5. they are not tech savvy
6. most of them don't understand english

by the way, people here don't even know what apple and linux is ...
conclusion :
the biggest problem is they don't have internet and don't know how to use internet...
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post #28 of 86
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Not 'no support'... different support.
Yes.

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As I said, aimed at the tech savvy.
Often, but not always.

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I'm sure that you, and a lot of other Linux users could walk a 5 year old through an install.
Not sure I'd want a 5-year-old installing an OS but yes, most probably could.

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I guess you'd have to cover drive partitioning etc.
No.

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Most people use Windows at work / school and therefore understand and know the layout of MS Office etc.
Yes, it's a mess, but this has nothing to do with ease of use or tech-savvyness requirements of Linux compared to Windows, it has to do with familiarity.
    
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No.

Despite what (many) Linux users say, it's not as easy as Windows. It doesn't have the same support i.e. the support is aimed at much more tech-savvy people.

Until Windows leaves classrooms, it won't catch on. People stick with what they know. I second the comment that in 'developing countries' the cost of the OS is negligable. In The Philippines you can buy Win 7 Ultimate for $2 within 10 minutes walk of anywhere in the CBD.
As someone who has spent enough time just using Linux to lose most of my familiarity with Windows, I can say that Windows isn't any easier to use than Linux, seriously, you have to get used to so much stuff.

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Having lived in Hong Kong, London and The Philippines and travelled/worked widely throughout the middle east and Asia, the availability of pirated (not stolen) software is much higher in less developed countries. Also, the likelihood of commercial use of pirated software is higher.
From what I can tell, the government and education system in many non-US countries are moving to Linux, meaning that as people get brought up using Linux, they'd be more likely to use it at home...Especially as distros are free, even if pirated Windows is $2 or whatever.


The way I see it, the people would prefer what they're used to, once you get used to Linux it becomes far easier to use than Windows and visa versa (Hence why some people say Linux is harder than Windows, I don't think I used the terminal once in an Ubuntu 10.10 installation and the WiFi worked much better than in Windows, less drop outs, etc) and the government? While they may have pirated copies right now, they wouldn't want to have them for various reasons, hence, Linux adoption increases through that. (Great example is Russia)

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Not 'no support'... different support. As I said, aimed at the tech savvy. I'm sure that you, and a lot of other Linux users could walk a 5 year old through an install. Would that be a basic install? I guess you'd have to cover drive partitioning etc.

It goes beyond Linux and to the software. Most people use Windows at work / school and therefore understand and know the layout of MS Office etc.
The support for Ubuntu isn't aimed at the tech savvy, I've seen many people post on those forums who had no idea what SATA is, or the different versions of USB3, let alone how to partition from the command line in Windows.
And using your example, if someones work or school uses Ubuntu with LibreOffice/OpenOffice, why wouldn't they be used to it? Many places in Europe, Southern America and Asia are using Linux in schools and workplaces now.

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If linux were to be adopted by everyone then it would suck too. Anything that is made for the masses will have to simplified to appeal to the lowest common denominator like the old lady down the street who is buying her first pc. Hell is other people and I hope Linux never gains enough market share to become just another windows or osx.
Eh, Linux wouldn't suck for one simple reason: It's mostly made by the community for the community, while Ubuntu may become bloated as heck and make everything ultra noob friendly, us tech savvy enthusiasts will always have Arch, Gentoo, etc.

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Windows won't get phased out in Europe. Most of servers etc the goverment has runs Windows, albeit I've heard of some cases of Linux. As for the general public EVERYONE uses Windows
Heaps of places use Linux or are converting to Linux, I could see it potentially happening over time as its the cheapest option (Hence why we mostly run x86 today, it was the cheapest option, same with petrol cars, etc.) but not if Linux gets particularly bad for some reason.
    
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Obviously not. Not even close. At least, not when it comes to personal computers.

It's definitely having good success in the mobile market of tablets and smartphones, though (Android).
    
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