Overclock.net › Forums › Software, Programming and Coding › Operating Systems › Linux, Unix › Linux for the rest of the world; Windows/Apple for the US?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Linux for the rest of the world; Windows/Apple for the US? - Page 5

Poll Results: Will Linux beat MS/Apple for the rest of the world's general users?

 
  • 38% (40)
    Yes
  • 52% (55)
    No
  • 1% (2)
    What's Linux?
  • 6% (7)
    There's other countries?!
104 Total Votes  
post #41 of 86
its really hard not to flame half the comments on this thread

linux is at a good place right now, more desktop support from the software companies would be nice but we dont even really need a larger user base, the only reason we would is to get that support from the software companies...

linux servers are awesome, your different choices on linux desktop distros make it so you can have whatever kinda feel and bloat/lackof on a fresh install everything from a 6mb distro thats CLI only and uses busybox (microcore REALLY COOL) to something thats several gig and has a shiny gui with every tool under the sun you can possibly think off... STRAIGHT from the install

BUT the world is plagued by idiots :/ in both the windows and the linux world... news stories like that chick that bought the laptop from dell that had ubuntu on it and was EPIC fail just make me face palm... but in reality, some one can be taht bad with just about any computer, some people just shouldnt have children.. the problem with this though, is that when some one is a total idiot using linux, its linux's fault... when they are a total idiot using windows, they just feel stupid... and tahts because windows is the standard for desktops and so they cant really knock it :/ on either account 99% of the time its still user error

as far as i am concerned, linux is just a better OS for security and networking reasons, it does what it does better... the only reason to even consider running windows is for program support, which mostly boils down to games AND THAT is getting better really fast on linux
Kinda meh now...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
PhII 940 BE asus M4N82 Deluxe 2x 8800gts(g92) 2x 1g ocz ddr2 1066 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
/dev/sd[abc] /dev/sr0 WinXP/Linux 22in acer 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
950w rosewill timebomb Antec 900 (2small) Voodoo Deathadder (RED!) X-Trac Pads Ripper XL 
  hide details  
Reply
Kinda meh now...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
PhII 940 BE asus M4N82 Deluxe 2x 8800gts(g92) 2x 1g ocz ddr2 1066 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
/dev/sd[abc] /dev/sr0 WinXP/Linux 22in acer 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
950w rosewill timebomb Antec 900 (2small) Voodoo Deathadder (RED!) X-Trac Pads Ripper XL 
  hide details  
Reply
post #42 of 86
Thread Starter 
Just amazing discussion here. I'm impressed though with the results of the poll still.

About the other countries and their piracy I do wonder if MS and it's latest policy of "show us your legitimate copy" will be it's own Achilles heel. As ironic as it sounds, killing piracy by force sounds like something that might lead to incentive to look for alternatives or make their own and kill MS chance elsewhere. Is it wrong that I actually hope MS goes crazy with that policy?
     
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core m3-6Y30 Intel HD515 8GB 1866DDR3L Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2, 256 GB 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Fanless Win10 Home x64 Kubuntu 16.04 (requires Linux kernel 4.5/4.6) 13.3 inch 16:9, 1920x1080 pixel, AU Optronics A... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB Asus M4A785TD-M EVO MSI GTX275 (Stock 666) 8GBs of GSkill 1600 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GBs of Adata 1333 Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB WD Caviar Black 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
LG 8X BDR (WHL08S20) Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Kubuntu x64 Windows 7 x64 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Bodhi Linux x64 Acer G215H (1920x1080) Seasonic 520 HAF912 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSOS
160GB LGLHDLBDRE32X Bodhi Linux Fedora LXDE 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Kubuntu SLAX 1280x600 + Dell 15inch Excellent! 
PowerCase
6 cells=6-12hrs and a charger 1001P MU17 Black 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core m3-6Y30 Intel HD515 8GB 1866DDR3L Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2, 256 GB 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Fanless Win10 Home x64 Kubuntu 16.04 (requires Linux kernel 4.5/4.6) 13.3 inch 16:9, 1920x1080 pixel, AU Optronics A... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB Asus M4A785TD-M EVO MSI GTX275 (Stock 666) 8GBs of GSkill 1600 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GBs of Adata 1333 Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB WD Caviar Black 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
LG 8X BDR (WHL08S20) Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Kubuntu x64 Windows 7 x64 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Bodhi Linux x64 Acer G215H (1920x1080) Seasonic 520 HAF912 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSOS
160GB LGLHDLBDRE32X Bodhi Linux Fedora LXDE 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Kubuntu SLAX 1280x600 + Dell 15inch Excellent! 
PowerCase
6 cells=6-12hrs and a charger 1001P MU17 Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #43 of 86
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rookie1337 View Post
Just amazing discussion here. I'm impressed though with the results of the poll still.

About the other countries and their piracy I do wonder if MS and it's latest policy of "show us your legitimate copy" will be it's own Achilles heel. As ironic as it sounds, killing piracy by force sounds like something that might lead to incentive to look for alternatives or make their own and kill MS chance elsewhere. Is it wrong that I actually hope MS goes crazy with that policy?
About the "legitimate copy" policy, I can see it becoming mandatory as high up as the national level. I could see UN enforcing universal policies on copyright, or some similar global policy for business. Honestly it's pretty bad that it's not mandatory, though that is a huge thing to regulate. Either way I could see countries pushing for business to go legit, it's for the better.
Current Rig
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 4.6GHz@1.44v GA-990FXA-UD3 R4.0 HD 7950 (1100/1450) 8G Muskin DDR3 1866@8CLS 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1TB WD LiteOn DVD-RW DL Linux/Windows 19" Phillips TV 1080p 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
OCZ 600W Generic Junk Logitech MX400 Generic Junk 
Audio
SBL 5.1 
  hide details  
Reply
Current Rig
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 4.6GHz@1.44v GA-990FXA-UD3 R4.0 HD 7950 (1100/1450) 8G Muskin DDR3 1866@8CLS 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1TB WD LiteOn DVD-RW DL Linux/Windows 19" Phillips TV 1080p 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
OCZ 600W Generic Junk Logitech MX400 Generic Junk 
Audio
SBL 5.1 
  hide details  
Reply
post #44 of 86
For Windows, Microsoft is never going to go hard-line with anti-piracy. At least not at the consumer level. The last time they took a hard-line stance, they had actual competitors arise and start taking significant chunks of business away from them. (Consider DR-DOS for instance.)

Microsoft would much rather have someone running a copy of their software that wasn't paid for, than have that someone running any non-Microsoft competing product. So much so that they actually give away free licenses for their software in certain market segments. (This is how I got a free copy of Windows, Visual Studio 2010, and a few other things.)
Underground
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920 C0 ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution GTX 460 TR3X6G1600C8D 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD1001FALS SAMSUNG SH-S223F 22X DVD MULTI Corsair H50 Fedora 16 KDE x86_64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP w19b Microsoft Comfort Curve Corsair CX600 Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS 
MouseMouse Pad
Razer DeathAdder Black 
  hide details  
Reply
Underground
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920 C0 ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution GTX 460 TR3X6G1600C8D 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD1001FALS SAMSUNG SH-S223F 22X DVD MULTI Corsair H50 Fedora 16 KDE x86_64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP w19b Microsoft Comfort Curve Corsair CX600 Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS 
MouseMouse Pad
Razer DeathAdder Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #45 of 86
For Windows, Microsoft is never going to go hard-line with anti-piracy. At least not at the consumer level. The last time they took a hard-line stance, they had actual competitors arise and start taking significant chunks of business away from them. (Consider DR-DOS for instance.)

Microsoft would much rather have someone running a copy of their software that wasn't paid for, than have that someone running any non-Microsoft competing product. So much so that they actually give away free licenses for their software in certain market segments. (This is how I got a free copy of Windows, Visual Studio 2010, and a few other things.)
Underground
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920 C0 ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution GTX 460 TR3X6G1600C8D 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD1001FALS SAMSUNG SH-S223F 22X DVD MULTI Corsair H50 Fedora 16 KDE x86_64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP w19b Microsoft Comfort Curve Corsair CX600 Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS 
MouseMouse Pad
Razer DeathAdder Black 
  hide details  
Reply
Underground
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920 C0 ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution GTX 460 TR3X6G1600C8D 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD1001FALS SAMSUNG SH-S223F 22X DVD MULTI Corsair H50 Fedora 16 KDE x86_64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP w19b Microsoft Comfort Curve Corsair CX600 Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS 
MouseMouse Pad
Razer DeathAdder Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #46 of 86
It's free which makes it great for developing countries, however, I do not believe it will be popular in the US. For some reason I can see it making it into the mobile industry. Not sure why.

I find it funny that they use Linux on airplanes when their logo is a penguin (a bird that can't fly)
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Phenom II X4 955 870A-G54 (MS-7599) XFX Radeon HD 5770 Power Color Radeon HD 5770 
RAMRAMRAMRAM
Corsair  Corsair  Corsair  Corsair  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi 1TB 7200RPM 2x Standard DVD 24x Burners Cooler Master V8 Windows 7 Home Premium 
MonitorPowerCase
ASUS Designo MS228H 21.5" 1080p Corsair CMPSU 750tx Antec 1200 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Phenom II X4 955 870A-G54 (MS-7599) XFX Radeon HD 5770 Power Color Radeon HD 5770 
RAMRAMRAMRAM
Corsair  Corsair  Corsair  Corsair  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi 1TB 7200RPM 2x Standard DVD 24x Burners Cooler Master V8 Windows 7 Home Premium 
MonitorPowerCase
ASUS Designo MS228H 21.5" 1080p Corsair CMPSU 750tx Antec 1200 
  hide details  
Reply
post #47 of 86
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scope View Post
It's free which makes it great for developing countries, however, I do not believe it will be popular in the US. For some reason I can see it making it into the mobile industry. Not sure why.

I find it funny that they use Linux on airplanes when their logo is a penguin (a bird that can't fly)
I think it could become popular if MS didn't have what all major corporations have in the US; which is more rights than citizens.

Did you ever think of the reason it can work so well on such "underpowered" machines is because it's "better"?

As for the logo thing...well how about a window? I don't think they fly much better.

Quote:
Originally Posted by error10 View Post
For Windows, Microsoft is never going to go hard-line with anti-piracy. At least not at the consumer level. The last time they took a hard-line stance, they had actual competitors arise and start taking significant chunks of business away from them. (Consider DR-DOS for instance.)

Microsoft would much rather have someone running a copy of their software that wasn't paid for, than have that someone running any non-Microsoft competing product. So much so that they actually give away free licenses for their software in certain market segments. (This is how I got a free copy of Windows, Visual Studio 2010, and a few other things.)
LOL. I always thought it was amusing how everyone complained about MS's "monopoly" yet they never attacked the real source which is the education system. The really amusing thing is that Apple has realized this is where to gain power because in just 5 years I've witnessed first hand how many people in college moved to Apple simply because of the "herd" mentality. It's disgustingly amazing how effective it's been.

It's also nice of them though that they gave me WIN7 for free. Otherwise, I'd still be gaming with a PS2.

But, I do wonder though; who are they after with the whole "show us proof" policy then?
     
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core m3-6Y30 Intel HD515 8GB 1866DDR3L Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2, 256 GB 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Fanless Win10 Home x64 Kubuntu 16.04 (requires Linux kernel 4.5/4.6) 13.3 inch 16:9, 1920x1080 pixel, AU Optronics A... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB Asus M4A785TD-M EVO MSI GTX275 (Stock 666) 8GBs of GSkill 1600 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GBs of Adata 1333 Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB WD Caviar Black 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
LG 8X BDR (WHL08S20) Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Kubuntu x64 Windows 7 x64 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Bodhi Linux x64 Acer G215H (1920x1080) Seasonic 520 HAF912 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSOS
160GB LGLHDLBDRE32X Bodhi Linux Fedora LXDE 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Kubuntu SLAX 1280x600 + Dell 15inch Excellent! 
PowerCase
6 cells=6-12hrs and a charger 1001P MU17 Black 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core m3-6Y30 Intel HD515 8GB 1866DDR3L Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2, 256 GB 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Fanless Win10 Home x64 Kubuntu 16.04 (requires Linux kernel 4.5/4.6) 13.3 inch 16:9, 1920x1080 pixel, AU Optronics A... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB Asus M4A785TD-M EVO MSI GTX275 (Stock 666) 8GBs of GSkill 1600 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GBs of Adata 1333 Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB WD Caviar Black 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
LG 8X BDR (WHL08S20) Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Kubuntu x64 Windows 7 x64 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Bodhi Linux x64 Acer G215H (1920x1080) Seasonic 520 HAF912 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSOS
160GB LGLHDLBDRE32X Bodhi Linux Fedora LXDE 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Kubuntu SLAX 1280x600 + Dell 15inch Excellent! 
PowerCase
6 cells=6-12hrs and a charger 1001P MU17 Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #48 of 86
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scope View Post
It's free which makes it great for developing countries, however, I do not believe it will be popular in the US. For some reason I can see it making it into the mobile industry. Not sure why.

I find it funny that they use Linux on airplanes when their logo is a penguin (a bird that can't fly)
air is a fluid...so you could say "flying" birds are actually swimming, which penguins do quite well
Bazinga Punk
(12 items)
 
ooh shiny!
(6 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon 3440 AsRock P55 extreme Evga 8800 GT 512 MB Gskill Ripjaws 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Western Digital Blue Antec Khuler 620 Ubuntu 11.10 Asus vw264H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
GIGABYTE KM7600 CORSAIR TX 650 Cooler Master 590 GIGABYTE GM-M6800 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I5 6500 Gigabyte z170xp-SLI Nvidia 970gtx Corsair 16gb ddr4 2666mhz  
Hard DriveOS
250gb Samsung Evo 850 Windows 10 & Ubuntu 15.10 
  hide details  
Reply
Bazinga Punk
(12 items)
 
ooh shiny!
(6 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon 3440 AsRock P55 extreme Evga 8800 GT 512 MB Gskill Ripjaws 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Western Digital Blue Antec Khuler 620 Ubuntu 11.10 Asus vw264H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
GIGABYTE KM7600 CORSAIR TX 650 Cooler Master 590 GIGABYTE GM-M6800 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I5 6500 Gigabyte z170xp-SLI Nvidia 970gtx Corsair 16gb ddr4 2666mhz  
Hard DriveOS
250gb Samsung Evo 850 Windows 10 & Ubuntu 15.10 
  hide details  
Reply
post #49 of 86
The only reason I use windows is for gaming, otherwise I would gladly switch over to linux.
i7 3820
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3820 AsRock X79 Extreme6 Sapphire 6950 2gb Sapphire 6950 2gb 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB)  Crucial M4 128gb LG HD-DVD/Blu-Ray Combo Drive Corsair H80 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro 64bit Samsung XL2370 Cooler Master Quick Fire (cherry blues) Corsair TX850M 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Fractal Define R3 SS Xai SS 4HD Asus Xonar Essence ST 
  hide details  
Reply
i7 3820
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3820 AsRock X79 Extreme6 Sapphire 6950 2gb Sapphire 6950 2gb 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB)  Crucial M4 128gb LG HD-DVD/Blu-Ray Combo Drive Corsair H80 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro 64bit Samsung XL2370 Cooler Master Quick Fire (cherry blues) Corsair TX850M 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Fractal Define R3 SS Xai SS 4HD Asus Xonar Essence ST 
  hide details  
Reply
post #50 of 86
If Linux did manage to get more popular, even just outside the US I would be very grateful. That could lead to it receiving software support, which means more of the tools (not to be confused with useless games) that I'm looking for. I would than have three different OS' to choose from when it comes to getting my work done. Great things come in 3s.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2300 Gigabyte GA-H61N-USB3 Sapphire Vapor-X 5770 8GB DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Spinpoint F3  Intel X25-M Corsair H50 Windows 7 Pro 64bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Samsung PX2370 HP 2311x Acer A231H Microsoft Arc 
PowerCaseMouse
OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Cosmos 1000 Microsoft Arc Touch Mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2300 Gigabyte GA-H61N-USB3 Sapphire Vapor-X 5770 8GB DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Spinpoint F3  Intel X25-M Corsair H50 Windows 7 Pro 64bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Samsung PX2370 HP 2311x Acer A231H Microsoft Arc 
PowerCaseMouse
OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Cosmos 1000 Microsoft Arc Touch Mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Linux, Unix
Overclock.net › Forums › Software, Programming and Coding › Operating Systems › Linux, Unix › Linux for the rest of the world; Windows/Apple for the US?