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I have a minecraft server and need to make a dedicated build for it. I cant have my rig on screaming all night long 24/7. So i need something quiet but still powerful enough to host atleast 20 people. I am hoping to also upgrade my internet speed to something more reasonable. What i would need is something small and doesn't use alot of power but is still strong enough to host 20 people.
Comeone guys! Show me what you got:D
EDIT: OH the price $550 MAX
i dont need OS,keyboard,screen,dvd drive,mouse nothing like that. everything else is needed.
Edited by jach11 - 5/10/11 at 5:09pm
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I hope you didn't want me to build a setup with a server processor/server motherboard because that'd definitely go past your budget.

Anyway.. here is something small, and doesn't use a lot of power, like you requested and shouldn't have issues hosting what you need it to. You didn't mention if you wanted a GPU or not btw. In anycase..

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131673
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231323
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146065

$519.94 Shipped (Not including 15% discount code for the case)

You wanted small so I picked micro form factors, you wanted energy efficient and I chose a 430W Antec 80 plus bronze certified PSU. The real question is did you want a GPU besides the onboard?
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if I knew what a Minecraft server build is and what performance it will require from what (i.e. CPU or GPU) I'd help out
Anyways iinversion's build is sadly nothing but pure suicide and not very good deals. Pairing an x6 with that motherboard, which is a 3+1 phase VRM... not suicide actually, but it won't work properly. The VRMs will overheat a lot to the point that VRM protection will throttle down the processor way too much during load for it to work properly & provide proper performance; I have seen it happen to users here with that exact same board or variants. There is cheaper 4x2GB or 2x4GB DDR3 RAM at 1600Mhz available (buy two of these). The power supply i'd say is priced quite too high for a 430W unit even if it is of quality.
Edited by xd_1771 - 5/11/11 at 8:16am
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You wont be able to host 20 people off your home connection.

Unless you are hiding a T3 line under your pillow.

Why not just rent a dedicated server and throw up a minecraft server? Corenetworks has some good discount servers, thats what I have mine on.
Edited by jgweb2000 - 5/11/11 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by xd_1771;13465570 
if I knew what a Minecraft server build is and what performance it will require from what (i.e. CPU or GPU) I'd help out
Anyways iinversion's build is sadly nothing but pure suicide and not very good deals. Pairing an x6 with that motherboard, which is a 3+1 phase VRM... not suicide actually, but it won't work properly. The VRMs will overheat a lot to the point that VRM protection will throttle down the processor way too much during load for it to work properly & provide proper performance; I have seen it happen to users here with that exact same board or variants. There is cheaper 4x2GB or 2x4GB DDR3 RAM at 1600Mhz available (buy two of these). The power supply i'd say is priced quite too high for a 430W unit even if it is of quality.

To me that motherboard looks like a 4 phase, but there isn't anything better for a micro form factor. None of the micro form factors I took a look at have anything better than a 4+1 phase. If he's willing to get a bigger computer than he'd be able to go with something with better phases. But honestly, with my 3+1 phase board I didn't run into problems with an X6 until the voltage was higher than 1.38 volts. He can easily run his X6 at 1.3v at 3GHz or so. He is right about it throttling down, but I believe at 1.3v that will not happen.


The PSU isn't priced very high for an Antec bronze certified. If you look at the Antec PSU's and probably other companies as well. When going from even a regular 80 plus certified to a bronze certified you will usually see roughly a $20 increase in price for the same wattage. (unless there is a sale/discount). It's up to him, I was just trying to get him a quality PSU that uses minimal power required to do what he was asking it to do, while still being in his budget.

But.. in anycase.. Do get xd's RAM suggestion.

EDIT: And if you are really worried about the X6 throttling down on a 4+1 phase board then you can order the 95w version X6 from a specialty site. It'll just take awhile to ship.
Edited by iinversion - 5/11/11 at 1:45pm
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post #6 of 12
It is a 3+1 phase; it would be a 4-phase if AM2 based design with no split phase but that is not the case.

Other users here I have dealt with have reported that throttling will even happen at stock speed & with stock cooler; if I had the time to dig out the couple of threads in where this has happened on this board & variants, I would. The cases were directly related to VRM overheating and overloading; a 3+1 phase simply isn't capable of handling such high TDP processor, some companies like Gigabyte smartly restrict all their 3+1 phase boards to 95W TDP. A 4+1 phase would actually be significantly better (if good quality) as long as the CPU is at stock speed & using the stock cooler and it shouldn't throttle; the load is split so each phase handles 25% of CPU current as opposed to 33%, this is actually a big difference. The x6 is probably the most power-heavy AMD processor out there, moreso than the x4 despite same 125W TDP.

At the $55 price point there are more decent PSUs with much higher wattage while retaining same quality. For example, the Rosewill Green 630W at $50 right now - you can ask OCNers around here, this is one of the really good PSUs Rosewill has been able to come up with and it's priced very well. 80+ to 80+ bronze isn't a huge difference.
Edited by xd_1771 - 5/11/11 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by xd_1771;13470150 
It is a 3+1 phase; it would be a 4-phase if AM2 based design with no split phase but that is not the case.

Other users here I have dealt with have reported that throttling will even happen at stock speed & with stock cooler; if I had the time to dig out the couple of threads in where this has happened on this board & variants, I would. The cases were directly related to VRM overheating and overloading; a 3+1 phase simply isn't capable of handling such high TDP processor, some companies like Gigabyte smartly restrict all their 3+1 phase boards to 95W TDP. A 4+1 phase would actually be significantly better (if good quality) as long as the CPU is at stock speed & using the stock cooler and it shouldn't throttle; the load is split so each phase handles 25% of CPU current as opposed to 33%, this is actually a big difference. The x6 is probably the most power-heavy AMD processor out there, moreso than the x4 despite same 125W TDP.

At the $55 price point there are more decent PSUs with much higher wattage while retaining same quality. For example, the Rosewill Green 630W at $50 right now - you can ask OCNers around here, this is one of the really good PSUs Rosewill has been able to come up with and it's priced very well. 80+ to 80+ bronze isn't a huge difference.


Then I suggest he get the 95w 1055T because as a "server" hosting 20 people I would be wanting that X6 over a X4. If the OP is still interested in going for the microATX form factor than I suggest this board:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128490

Along with the 1055T 95W version. 4+1 phase and a 95W should be absolutely fine on that board and possibly even a slight overclock. Also this board supports AM3+ so if the bulldozer CPU's are in the TDP range then it could potentially be upgraded in the future. Whatcha think about that xd? Better?

As far as the Rosewill PSU goes, yes I'm sure it's a decent PSU and especially for it's price point. I have no doubt some people have good experiences with the product. I personally don't like Rosewill products because well.. simply put, most of their products just aren't very good in terms of quality. Once again, the OP can decide what he wants because now he has both options at his disposal.
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I can't remember the thread here but someone else was building a minecraft server a while back and if I recall correctly the server app was single threaded. They just went with a fast dual core and extra ram. It was a server runs by some guys in the PC Games forum.
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If that's true then it'd be a lot easier to just make him a fast dual core computer, wouldn't have to worry about all that VRM exploding/throttling stuff.
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post #10 of 12
..Why not just rent? It's wayyyy cheaper.
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