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I find it funny how there's cpu performance comparison thread for a 7 year old game.
It just erks me people say they run max settings and never drop below 60fps, or they are extremely vague and say they never dropped below 60fps but dont play anywhere near 1080p resolutions.

I am easily trolled in this topic.

I remember coming from a E2180 2ghz Dual core to a q9400 3.6ghz, and guess what? NO IMPROVEMENTS.

Too much to take into account for WoW,
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I haven't been able to max out WoW on my server in Org =(
Burning Blade Heavy Horde Pop server.
Here's 2 screens I took a few weeks ago when there was another thread about how someone considered running WoW at over 30 FPS on max settings was "maxing out the game"

Around the AH/Garrosh's hold


At the portals for Cata zones (low pop area)
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Thanks for backing me up here azianai
    
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Now this is crowded, and its not even peek time yet





hovering between 34-39fps
i think a limitation in WoW and not our hardware
Cpu is just at 23% usage and graphics just at 33% usage with 1 card
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Thanks for backing me up here azianai
/shrug


We've already established the issue is with WoW itself, you aren't going to get amazing FPS in densely populated areas no matter what combination of hardware you have. Maybe once we hit 10 GHz or Blizzard updates the backend, whichever comes first, but for now troll on my friend.
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Thanks for backing me up here azianai
???

Balla: WoW is bottle-necked by CPU!!
Everyone else: WoW is bottle-necked by old coding, not CPU!
Azianai: Here's an example of a good CPU/GPU, proving that WoW is not optimized for new hardware.
Balla: Thanks for backing me up!!


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Its still a hardware limitation if using faster cores makes it run faster.

Just because AMD and INTEL couldn't get the per core performance up and added more cores instead doesn't mean software should magically morph and start to use more cores than it was designed to use.

There is nothing wrong with the code of WoW, it just requires a lot of cpu power in highly populated areas. There is nothing wrong with it requiring a lot of cpu power either, it has a lot that needs to be done.
    
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Everyone else: WoW is bottle-necked by old coding, not CPU!


Yes, you can see that in mine and azenai's screenshots
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Its still a hardware limitation if using faster cores makes it run faster.

Just because AMD and INTEL couldn't get the per core performance up and added more cores instead doesn't mean software should magically morph and start to use more cores than it was designed to use.
i dont think it is, if they used proper/different coding/rendering or a total different engine it would be a different outcome.

you can have really REALLY good looking IMBA games on a pc and they run better and smoother then warcraft.

Think warcraft is just not using the full potential of new hardware nowdays... wich isnt wierd because wow is really old and so is its engine.
server lag and optimalisations and so come in to play to.

i could be wrong but it does looks like it.

if it would be like Balla says then why doesnt it give me 10% more performance if i overclock everyhing in my pc by 10% more ? i know overclock never translate to a linear result but WoW doesnt even give 2% more fps on a 10% overclock, more proof its on WoW's side i think.
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Graphics don't mean anything here, unless they were so high it bottlenecked your video card at 30 fps.

The CoP bench is single threaded and I can still push it well over 100 fps with my rig.

WoW requires a high cpu workload because it needs to do a lot of stuff that isn't GPU related.


You can name it anything you want, but if you improve core performance and it increases fps than the problem is the cpu not the game.


See how good Metro 2033 runs with 100 other people in close proximity.
    
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