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can someone try this. for the game WOW, in the advance option. under max foreground fps and max background fps...can you shut it off or uncheck the box and see if you get better frame rates. thanks a bunch. i wanna see if it impacts on your frames.
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I leave those options off because when I alt tab it makes wow go into 20 fps, and since I play windowed mode it does not minimize and I could the the laggy frame rate in the background. It bugs me lol.
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@Bella - Yes I agree here.

@Plex - Will have to try your server for some fun!

@Farih - Holy crap! Yeah never seen it quite that busy on Teranas.

I've been fooling around a lot with this game too on stock VS OC and I think the thing that's eluding most in this thread is just the efficiency of each core or architecture. Faster hardware helps and does improve things but to what extent certainly varies.

Every couple hundred mhz bump I've done has likewise bumped up the FPS minimum by 5-10, and say, a 25mhz or so boost on the GPU likewise bumps FPS by 2-5 FPS. I've noticed more improvement personally from higher and higher CPU OC's than any GPU OC, but every little bit combined helps.

To the SSD commentors; no, it doesn't boost FPS per se but it does smooth out loading spikes and does load a crowded AH area quite fast. It's nice but I think it's already been said that HDD VS SSD isn't what is limiting the OP here.

To compare further, I'm on ultra except for resolution and MSAA. Generally running 1600x1200 fullscreen ultra with only MSAA on 4x. Will hit 55 or 60 FPS minimum at SW Trade AH during peak times for my server and 120-400 FPS everywhere else, but again, I'm on Xeons. Totally different architecture style.

Oh and DX11 over any body of water is nice even IF the rest of the engine is old wink.gif
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can someone try this. for the game WOW, in the advance option. under max foreground fps and max background fps...can you shut it off or uncheck the box and see if you get better frame rates. thanks a bunch. i wanna see if it impacts on your frames.

I leave that unchecked always but on my bro's ancient Dell Inspiron E1505 (all settings low @ 1024x768 lawl), it did boost my FPS there from single digits to the 20s outdoors. Ironically now the more interesting thing was that since this laptop is very prone to overheating constantly, I went in and shut off Intel Speedstep to downclock the core from 1.8Ghz to 1.0Ghz. FPS? Skyrocketed to the 40s-60s outdoors (though still teens or less in town). Interesting is all I have to say. But again, this is because of thermals, not efficiency. Laptop at 1.8 would play as well as my reduced settings - until the throttling kicked in and FPS went to 2 everywhere.
Edited by The-Real-Link - 5/11/11 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Graphics don't mean anything here, unless they were so high it bottlenecked your video card at 30 fps.

The CoP bench is single threaded and I can still push it well over 100 fps with my rig.

WoW requires a high cpu workload because it needs to do a lot of stuff that isn't GPU related.


You can name it anything you want, but if you improve core performance and it increases fps than the problem is the cpu not the game.


See how good Metro 2033 runs with 100 other people in close proximity.
Maybe your right in NOT densly populated area's

BUT, if i am in Ogrimmar with 36FPS it wont matter if i got my cpu at 3,0 or 3,8ghz.
the difference might be 1 or 2 fps
that is not a cpu thing, its a WoW server side thing

i agree that graphics dont mean much here
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OIC, because when I went from 3.6 to 5.3 I saw a 17 fps increase.
    
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Its still a hardware limitation if using faster cores makes it run faster.

Just because AMD and INTEL couldn't get the per core performance up and added more cores instead doesn't mean software should magically morph and start to use more cores than it was designed to use.

There is nothing wrong with the code of WoW, it just requires a lot of cpu power in highly populated areas. There is nothing wrong with it requiring a lot of cpu power either, it has a lot that needs to be done.
It's a hardware limitation that is subsequently caused by a software limitation. Again, the software was written over 7 years ago and optimized only a couple of times after, BC for multi-threading and again in Cataclysm for DX11. You seriously expect performance to be comparable to Metro 2033?


The fact is you're expecting too much out of the game, your hardware is only as good as the software running on it.
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Look at my sig rig and I play WOW. I don't drop below 63 FPS on ultra and rez at 1920x1080.
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OIC, because when I went from 3.6 to 5.3 I saw a 17 fps increase.
sadly i could never test that

i cant go over 4,2ghz and thats gets even way to hot for me liking.
also sandy bridge is a different architecture, maybe that helps

and again, try it in a place like ogrimmar on Stormscale Horde
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sadly i could never test that

i cant go over 4,2ghz and thats gets even way to hot for me liking.
also sandy bridge is a different architecture, maybe that helps

and again, try it in a place like ogrimmar on Stormscale Horde
I can come to you

Just tell me where and when and I'll have a little orc to ogrimmar

Edit: Oic you did, I'll check it out right now.
    
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Look at my sig rig and I play WOW. I don't drop below 63 FPS on ultra and rez at 1920x1080.
Sure you do. At least until you step into anything that's actually stressful on the CPU, like raiding.

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OIC, because when I went from 3.6 to 5.3 I saw a 17 fps increase.
Over at MMO-Champion, we've pretty much determined that CPU supports minimum framerate, while GPU supports maximum framerate. If you have a great GPU, you'll get hundreds of frames per second when you're all alone in the middle of nowhere. If you have a great CPU, you'll have better framerate in crowded areas and raids.

The problem with your argument is that you don't seem to be accepting that it's the code's fault. Just because a faster CPU runs the code better doesn't mean it's the CPU's fault. The game is running a 9-ish year old engine (development began in 2001 using the WC3 engine, but that was scrapped shortly after). It's showing its age. That's not modern hardware's fault.
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