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I took a SB cpu at 3.6Ghz and get around 40 fps, then overclocked the cpu to 5.3GHz and get 57 fps. Can you point me to the diminishing returns on that overclock?

When IB comes out and is 20% faster clock for clock, and runs a bit higher overclocks and goes over 60 fps will you still hold onto your false beliefs?
I don't fully understand why your fps is so low. My P4 630 with intergrated graphics usually keeps me around 20-30 fps in all cities. (same settings as I stated before)

If it wouldn't take me a week to download WoW I'd send some screen pics over your way. =P
    
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That's still 5 years after AQ40. Your system with a 555BE and GTX460 was not more powerful than an i5 750 @ 3.8GHz and Radeon 5770, yet you're claiming somewhere between 2 and 5 times the performance. If you're going to lie, try making it believable.
I'm just saying that when I did play months ago the game didn't seem that intensive. Has it truly changed this much?
    
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I don't fully understand why your fps is so low. My P4 630 with intergrated graphics usually keeps me around 20-30 fps in all cities. (same settings as I stated before)

If it wouldn't take me a week to download WoW I'd send some screen pics over your way. =P
My sig rig runs at about 50fps average in cities. A single core P4 isn't coming close to 20-30fps in a crowded city, at maximum settings, at 1080p.

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I'm just saying that when I did play months ago the game didn't seem that intensive. Has it truly changed this much?
You are claiming framerates with a 555BE in a raid situation (1k fps on C'thun) that my 2500k can't get running around solo somewhere in the middle of nowhere. Why would I believe you're not lying?
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This has been discussed many times, and I'd like to say a couple of things if anyone wants to listen

1. I know for an absolute fact, having used many different hardware configurations and shamefully having a pile of oldschool titles and mounts under my belt, that the majority of people here claiming they get 300fps+ with max settings in capital cities or raids are just down right lying.

2. Repeating ad nauseum a fact that has long been known, repeated, and pored over by the WoW community stings me, but here it goes - it's an old engine and it scales poorly (that is to say, faster hardware generally runs it better, but not much better).
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So I popped into Org on a fresh Level 1 orc and did some testing. For reference, I have a LARGE number of addons (> 100MB addon memory).

In the valley of trials I was well over 60 fps. It didn't really start dropping until I got to where everyone was dueling, down to about 30fps. When I stand in front of the AH in the valley of strength I'm at 15fps with high settings. Dropping everything to low gives me 23fps.

Lowering each setting individually made only a negligible difference.

Disabling all addons, I'm at 19fps on high settings and 34fps with everything at low. So the addons make a little bit of difference, but it's not that big. (But oh what a difference logging in and out!)

I can see that WoW has 34 threads going, but only one of them is using any noticeable amount of CPU, and that thread spends most of its time at 100%.

I also got one guild invite and one Gamon kill (with some help). He dropped 24 copper.

From all this I can conclude that Blizzard hasn't REALLY learned how to make its game engine take advantage of multiple CPU threads.
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Oh yay... Another WoW thread...

There should be no argument over anything here.

1. If you are getting a steady ~150 FPS (and when I say steady I don't mean you spike to 150 FPS when zoomed all the way in while sitting in a corner, or some other stupid cop out excuse like that), then you aren't running a very high resolution or you aren't running everything maxed out. Period, end of sentence. It doesn't happen in WoW. Even if you have your i7 overclocked to 6Ghz or whatever. A populated area will be too much for any CPU to handle effectively.

2. WoW is poorly coded, we all know this, nothing new here. It's very CPU intensive and not very GPU intensive. It will only max out two logical CPUs. That's a fact, and it hasn't changed since they upgraded it to two from one. You can see work being performed on multiple logical CPUs but the % used across however many logical CPU's you have will never increase greater than 100% use of 2 logical CPUs... In other words, if you have 4 logical CPU's, each one will be running around 50% load. If you have 8, they will be at 25% load, etc.

3. It really doesn't matter what CPU architecture you are running, it won't be THAT much faster clock for clock, it will be faster, but the gains simply aren't gonna be the theoretical gains that are being portrayed, they never are.

You want to run WoW fast? Get a CPU with at least 3 logical CPUs (one extra to help handle background stuff), a half decent GPU, and a SSD. The SSD won't increase your overall FPS in game. If you think it does, you are mistaken. It will reduce the loading time of the world and all the objects in it, but once those objects are loaded, it is the task of the CPU to process what they do from there.
 
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so I found the most emptiest area I could in wow were it was REALLY REALLY small and here are the results for me
First is 1920x1200 then 6048x1200 max settings.

200~ fps in absolute empty area. Barely keeping 60 fps in empty area in eyefinty.. there.




Empty Org


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I see no bottleneck on the CPU or GPU really, the 98% usage on the GPU was when I turned up looking at the sky high above Orgrimmar which I rarely do while I play which should indicate CPU bottleneck, but it's only like 50% usage on the cores? Absolutely everything maxed out with shadows, antistropic filtering and anti aliasing. Could it be my connection or? :< I couldn't raid with 60 fps on my old rig with X4 965 and x-fire 5770 either, havent tried it on this rig.



I do live in northern Norway tho so I guess server is pretty far from me but bad ping still :<
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dude that city is empty, even I get the same FPS with single monitor @ 1920x1200 res.
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Is he joking?

Thats a 30% or more gpu bottleneck derived from the cpu.
    
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