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lol I am Since 2004, I can't do anything but click.

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I see Recount on, but not any other telltale signs of other addons. I know that addons can drastically change your fps especially if they're outdated. I currently play wow and can't recall the last time I dipped below 60fps. (I play on a far higher pop server than Kel'thuzad too.) SSD only seems to really matter for me when loading or in a really really high congestion area such as Tol Barad. By chance, are you running in windowed mode? I recall WoW not using SLI unless you're fullscreen/non-windowed.

I'd love WoW to be bottlenecked by my CPU as it would give me another reason to tell the missus I NEED to upgrade once BD/SB-E/IB are released. I have a serious case of upgrade-itis.

I don't think anyone is making this personal, and there is certainly nothing wrong with your hardware. I'm quite jealous of your memory bandwidth, but I've been cut off from buying more RAM until I upgrade my motherboard/CPU.
Recount is all that I'm using

The only time I dip below 60 is in very high pop areas, everything else is cheese. However because of the cpu usage, I believe it is a cpu bottleneck, increasing gpu speed does not increase fps in these cases. However increasing cpu speed increases gpu usage -> increases fps. Which is a classic case of cpu bottlenecking.

I'm running full screen, and SLI is fully active and able to do 99% load in 99% of the areas I visit.

SB-E isn't going to provide a performance increase outside of what the larger cache brings, the additional cores and memory bandwidth probably aren't going to matter - at least not in WoW.

Sandy Bridge is an awesome chip, but I'm always looking for faster gear at reasonable prices. I don't think bulldozer is going to deliver on per core performance so my next upgrade if I make one will be IB on this board (if that works).

What sever do you play on? I wouldn't mind dropping in with you and going to where I can reproduce these results if you're willing to come
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i dont really see how wow has a problem with sandy bridge, my 760 at 4ghz is more than enough to keep my gtx 570 running at 98% all the time in crowded areas and outside.
Edit: and yes that is 13ms/15ms ping

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The only time I dip below 60 is in very high pop areas, everything else is cheese. However because of the cpu usage, I believe it is a cpu bottleneck, increasing gpu speed does not increase fps in these cases.
Are you running both your OS and WoW from the 1TB F3 Spinpoint?
I'm gonna duplicate my OS/WoW to a normal HDD (Scorpio black) to compare the FPS drop with a SSD (Corsair Nova), thats why Iam askin
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lol I am Since 2004, I can't do anything but click.



Recount is all that I'm using

The only time I dip below 60 is in very high pop areas, everything else is cheese. However because of the cpu usage, I believe it is a cpu bottleneck, increasing gpu speed does not increase fps in these cases. However increasing cpu speed increases gpu usage -> increases fps. Which is a classic case of cpu bottlenecking.
Interesting. I'll have to check my GPU usage next time I'm in a high pop area such as Stormwind or Tol Barad during a battle.
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I'm running full screen, and SLI is fully active and able to do 99% load in 99% of the areas I visit.
Ahh, okay. I've been playing since '05 and remember getting angry because my 7900's in sli weren't doing me justice. It wasn't until I started digging that I found that out. There are still quite a few players that run wow in windowed and wonder why SLI isn't giving them any benefit.
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SB-E isn't going to provide a performance increase outside of what the larger cache brings, the additional cores and memory bandwidth probably aren't going to matter - at least not in WoW.
This is where I'm uncertain. SB-E (and possibly the others) may have a higher clock advantage even when running 1-2 threads. If this is a true bottleneck, I'd imagine that having a higher clock advantage could alleviate that problem. Again, I haven't done enough research into this to even speculate to be honest. (I'm honestly waiting for TERA to come out anyway so I can take another WoW hiatus. This should hopefully take advantage of more advanced technology.)
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Sandy Bridge is an awesome chip, but I'm always looking for faster gear at reasonable prices. I don't think bulldozer is going to deliver on per core performance so my next upgrade if I make one will be IB on this board (if that works).
Yeah, I'm quite skeptical of BD, but really would love to get back to my AMD roots. I actually purchased my first "high end" computer for WoW/Lineage 2, which was an AMD system! (FX-57 - was sooo good back then)
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What sever do you play on? I wouldn't mind dropping in with you and going to where I can reproduce these results if you're willing to come
I play on Tichondrius, but probably won't be on much these next couple days as it's finals time, and I get beat up by the warden...er wife if I spend too much time gaming.
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Although you have stated you believe it is a cpu bottleneck, I'd really like you to get a SSD

Not to prove you wrong or anything, just to see what a difference you get when a SSD is involved, as your op benchmark is pretty thorough
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Although you have stated you believe it is a cpu bottleneck, I'd really like you to get a SSD

Not to prove you wrong or anything, just to see what a difference you get when a SSD is involved, as your op benchmark is pretty thorough
lol I'm not buying an SSD for WoW, not because I'm almost positive it wouldn't benefit me while gaming, but because I'm simply not paying $100 for 60gb of storage... I don't care how fast I load games.


Also pointless images of your fps in WoW are pointless.



More than pointless, but I'm at the AH Balla!!!

Yeah.
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I really really need to get to bed, but this talk of SSD vs HDD made me want to check. As I just recently did a fresh windows install, I happened to still have my game set up on my harddrive as well as my SSD. Both are identical in addons and settings.

HDD: (135.1 fps)

SSD: (137.6 fps)


Granted, both were taken at a non-peak time, but this was the busiest place I could find at this hour. There is a HUGE difference in load times, but I'm afraid with my limited test, there isn't any difference in fps. The 2fps difference was just me hitting printscreen as the numbers kept bouncing around from 120-145. I do have a lot of addons installed, so my framerate does suffer a little. (GPU usage was between 41-50%. )
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Granted, both were taken at a non-peak time, but this was the busiest place I could find at this hour. There is a HUGE difference in load times, but I'm afraid with my limited test, there isn't any difference in fps. The 2fps difference was just me hitting printscreen as the numbers kept bouncing around from 120-145. I do have a lot of addons installed, so my framerate does suffer a little. (GPU usage was between 41-50%. )
So purely looking at the FPS in WoW, there isn't much (if any) difference between a HDD and SSD. Couldn't it be that the longer loading times of a normal HDD are responsible for the longer FPS drop that he is experiencing then?

Am still looking for a good HDD/SSD App to test this by the way, anyone?
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