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If the hard drive is heavily accessed by the game, OS, and other background apps at the same time, it can slow down the frame rate. Installing WoW on a separate drive apart from the OS, page file, etc. can lessen any sudden stuttering or drops in frame rate.

Balla might have to turn down the shadows. WoW is not a optimally coded game. The worst software will slow down the fastest hardware. Throwing faster hardware at bad software engineering can only get you so far.
Yeah but I thought he installed it on a separate drive?

And I LOL'd at his title. What you need to max this game is a Pentium D at 4GHz to max WoW, the game was released when nothing but clock rates mattered, to say 2011 hardware is not good enough to max an over-bloated 2001 game is ridiculous. Why you're not getting decent FPS in this is the same reason why Black Ops runs like sh**: a polished turd of an engine will never run as well as a game built on a new engine ready to take advantage of the latest hardware.
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with 2x 580's it doesn't suprise me
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Looking at this, how the hell is 4GB extra RAM going to help anything? It barely uses over half his current memory modules.
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Graphics cards and memory

This part of the article treats all programs equally, including the 32-bit programs that run in a 64-bit environment. We'll start with a look into the graphics card’s use of dedicated and allocateable system memory. For example, 1 GB of dedicated video RAM can look plentiful at first glance, but in practice it's rarely enough. We've mentioned GMP, GART, and the fact that graphics cards can require or request additional memory. From now on, we'll use a 64-bit version of Windows 7 for testing and begin with only 4 GB of RAM installed.

The graphics card manages to assign itself an additional 1407 MB of system memory to outsource, for example, the storage of currently unused textures. A total of just 4 GB of installed RAM hardly makes sense if the game is already using 2 GB or more. The consequences of reduced assignment are late details that pop up out of the blue, lower texture resolutions, and even artifacts.

These artifacts vanish when you install another 4 GB of RAM, since this allows the graphics card to grab a fat piece of the system memory pie.

An additional 3059 MB of memory is now at the card's disposal.

Interestingly, when installing more memory, this value does not change above 4 GB. The amount of extra available memory can be very hard to measure and quantify in numbers of frames per second, mainly because it leads to improved level loading speeds, higher detail levels, and better-quality textures. Often, the game you're playing will allow for higher graphical options, and there will be fewer artifacts when the system is heavily loaded.

Summary and Conclusion

In a 64-bit system with a powerful graphics card, 8 GB of RAM really is a must if you're going to play demanding games. This is the case regardless of whether you're using 32-bit or 64-bit applications. However, even more than 8 GB of RAM can be subjectively noticed while playing. There is no real need for 16 GB of RAM, though. Going with 8 GB is quite enough unless you're running some taxing application in the background. We’ll comment more on this subject later, because the problem is often overestimated, as shown in our 64-bit gaming benchmarks.
Now shoo, fly
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Can you borrow some more and test again with 8GB? I'm just curious.
Anything 4Gb or over is more than enough for WoW.
Wow is still only 32 bit code, and it's a common and well known bug that when wow uses more than 2Gb Ram, it simply crashes.
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with 2x 580's it doesn't suprise me
But that's exactly my point. According to the OP, it shouldn't matter how much GPU power I have.
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Then it isn't ultra settings. Its just ultra on everything but shadows. Oh and I get around 45 FPS in org watching people walk around. I'll post a SS of it tomorrow since I am about to hit the sack.
With my sig rig and everything on Ultra I get about 45 fps in Orgimmar as well. Usually double or triple that everywhere else in the game. I have the fastest Comcast internet available in Chicago area (can't remember what they advertise the speed at) and 40ms ping. I also have my OS on my SSD, but WoW is being pulled exclusively from my HDD with nothing else accessing that drive at the same time.

I really doubt some people are pulling 100 fps all the time in the game, I've never seen it in densely populated areas.
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lol I'm not buying an SSD for WoW, not because I'm almost positive it wouldn't benefit me while gaming, but because I'm simply not paying $100 for 60gb of storage... I don't care how fast I load games.


Also pointless images of your fps in WoW are pointless.



More than pointless, but I'm at the AH Balla!!!

Yeah.
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Now shoo, fly
Even with the extra 1GB RAM eating up his memory it wouldn't be used up completely. And what you quoted is if I remember correctly, the article off Toms, which stated the only reason you need 8GB is to reserve the extra 4GB for swap memory to make applications run faster, including games. And like others stated before, WoW is made for a 32bit OS to handle. If he had ran out of memory his PC would be unusable and either start using the HDD as RAM or BSOD, depending on what he set. Shoo yourself.
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I really doubt some people are pulling 100 fps all the time in the game, I've never seen it in densely populated areas.
Except I do. Easily.

Will be happy to prove it to you when I get home from work tonight. Shoot, I can even FRAPS to show you, my FPS would still be above 100 even while recording.
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Except I do. Easily.

Will be happy to prove it to you when I get home from work tonight. Shoot, I can even FRAPS to show you, my FPS would still be above 100 even while recording.
Cool man do that. Take some screens tonight on your flying mount in Org while looking at the auction house/center of town if you can.

I'd like to see one w/ your SLI setup, and then one with SLI disabled so you're just using one card if you don't mind.



I'm not saying I don't believe you so no need to be defensive, I'm just saying I haven't seen it.
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I just got an Email from Blizzard "Come back we want yout money" after not playing for about 3 years. I'll activate it and do some benchmarks!

Downloading client - 10Gb @ 1.4MBs so it will take about 2 to 3 hours if i don't get a drop in speed!
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