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I would have hopped for that but I really don't think the chip I have can get me there. My temps so far are in the 62C to topping at 70C too which is near the 72C I've read is the range to keep 24/7 usage.
If those are your temps right now, then it sounds to me like one or more of the following could be true:
  • The NH-D14 might need to be reinstalled
  • The NH-D14 might not be tightened down enough
  • There may not be enough thermal paste
  • There might be too much thermal paste
  • The airflow in the case may need to be improved

Speaking of your airflow, what is the temperature of the air that's being pulled into your case by your intake fans? In other words, what is the ambient temperature?

Also, where do you keep your system? Is it out in the open where it is free to breathe, or is it in an enclosed area like a desk hole?
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My temps for comparison. 4.5GHz ~1.368v Vcore, CM Hyper 212+

    
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i ran a blend test last night and woke up to a pc turned off.. when i turned it on it told me windows had stoped working due to a error did the search for soloution but nothing happend after.... tryed another blend test and came back a bit later and same ****..... i guess it crashed or bsod or sumin.. after that pc was acting funny and kept freezing.

reset back to standard and ran pc normally all day everythings working fine.. guess it didnt like those setting

the voltage for dram was 1.5000V i set them up as the sticker on the sticks says and pc never boots <.<...

shame the pc ran fine to begin with at 4.7 unsure what made it crash. my room always feels warm especially when pc is on, i wouldnt say its really that well ventelated its stuck under a desk side of sofa out of the way no real air flow.. running dualbox version of ffxiv all day today temps 40-55C about 60-80% cpu usage.

is there a way to stop it booting and coming up with so many boot screens.. it shows boot screen then text then boot screen then text about the sata3 w/e 5/6gb drivers then boot screeen then loads windows... all a lil fast mind your but i find it annoying lol.
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is there a way to stop it booting and coming up with so many boot screens.. it shows boot screen then text then boot screen then text about the sata3 w/e 5/6gb drivers then boot screeen then loads windows... all a lil fast mind your but i find it annoying lol.
Go into bios and disable both the Marvell and JMicron controllers. Marvell is the most important one to disable.
    
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post #1955 of 9343
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i ran a blend test last night and woke up to a pc turned off.. when i turned it on it told me windows had stoped working due to a error did the search for soloution but nothing happend after.... tryed another blend test and came back a bit later and same ****..... i guess it crashed or bsod or sumin.. after that pc was acting funny and kept freezing.
In the future, don't tell Windows to check for possible solutions because it will never find one. The reason is because the solution is to make your overclock stable, however it has no clue that you're in the middle of overclocking. All it knows is that it crashed. So you are the solution.

Also: every single time Windows has an improper shut down (such as like what you experienced), make absolutely sure that you give Windows at least one healthy restart from within Windows before moving forward. That means you let it boot up that first time after the crash, wait for it to finish booting, choose Restart, let it restart to completion, choose Restart again so you can go back into the UEFI, and then continue tweaking the overclock.


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reset back to standard and ran pc normally all day everythings working fine.. guess it didnt like those setting

the voltage for dram was 1.5000V i set them up as the sticker on the sticks says and pc never boots <.<...

shame the pc ran fine to begin with at 4.7 unsure what made it crash. my room always feels warm especially when pc is on, i wouldnt say its really that well ventelated its stuck under a desk side of sofa out of the way no real air flow.. running dualbox version of ffxiv all day today temps 40-55C about 60-80% cpu usage.

is there a way to stop it booting and coming up with so many boot screens.. it shows boot screen then text then boot screen then text about the sata3 w/e 5/6gb drivers then boot screeen then loads windows... all a lil fast mind your but i find it annoying lol.
In addition to that, I recommend going through the UEFI very very carefully to disable everything you're not using. Click on everything and look.


Regarding the airflow: can you bring the case out into the open where it's completely free to breathe just as an experiment? I want to see if the temperatures are any different from that 60-72 that you saw.
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post #1956 of 9343
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If those are your temps right now, then it sounds to me like one or more of the following could be true:
  • The NH-D14 might need to be reinstalled
  • The NH-D14 might not be tightened down enough
  • There may not be enough thermal paste
  • There might be too much thermal paste
  • The airflow in the case may need to be improved

Speaking of your airflow, what is the temperature of the air that's being pulled into your case by your intake fans? In other words, what is the ambient temperature?

Also, where do you keep your system? Is it out in the open where it is free to breathe, or is it in an enclosed area like a desk hole?
I think I need to invest in something to check the ambient temps as this is the important thing i need to know i guess. I was worried about the temps until i looked at the i5/i7 club for there blend test temps and saw some comparable temps there.

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My temps for comparison. 4.5GHz ~1.368v Vcore, CM Hyper 212+

Tho seeing these temps now makes me think twice. Thank you for the screen shot.

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Regarding the airflow: can you bring the case out into the open where it's completely free to breathe just as an experiment? I want to see if the temperatures are any different from that 60-72 that you saw.
I got the FT02 specifically for its cooling. I have the fans on high for when i stress test. Though i may need to think of a better position for the PC as (crazy as itll sound lol) it currently sits behind my 40" TV. The TV can get warm after a while with it being on but i have the case abit away from it and thought that the bottom of the case is free to pickup air either side.
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Apologies for the double post my internet hung on me.

Anyways heres a pick of my current location:



If you look down the left side of the shot youll see the case in the background
Edited by Durden - 7/17/11 at 2:50pm
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There's no need to invest in anything but a room thermometer.

However if you don't have one, then how does it feel to you? Does it feel cool in the room, comfortable, warm, hot, etc?
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post #1959 of 9343
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Then check out these settings (particularly to begin experimenting more with Offset Mode):

  • Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
  • BLCK/PCIE Frequency: 100.0
  • Turbo Ratio: By All Cores
  • By All Cores: 48 (I am not finished testing)
  • Internal PLL Voltage: Enabled
  • Memory Frequency: DDR3-1866MHz
  • EPU Power Saving Mode: Disabled
  • DRAM Timing Control: 9-11-9-28-1T
  • CPU Power Management: all power-saving features and what-not are fully enabled, such as EIST and the C-states


DIGI+ VRM

  • Load-Line Calibration: Ultra High
  • VRM Frequency: Manual
  • VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
  • Phase Control: Extreme
  • Duty Control: Extreme
  • CPU Current Capability: 140%
  • CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
  • Offset Mode Sign: +
  • CPU Offset Voltage: 0.030V
  • DRAM Voltage: 1.5000
  • VCCSA Voltage: Auto
  • VCCIO Voltage: 1.15625V, but it likes to swing between 1.150V and 1.178V. However, it usually hovers most of the time at 1.162V and 1.165V while sometimes hitting 1.171V.
  • CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
  • PCH Voltage: Auto
  • CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled

My full load voltage with an Offset of 0.030V seems to hang out at 1.376V the most while sometimes hitting below it at 1.368V, and then above it at 1.384V. With the Offset at 0.025V, it would hang out at 1.368V the most while going down to 1.360V and up to 1.376V. Although, it would hang out between 1.368V and 1.376V the most just like how 0.030V causes to to hang out at 1.376V and 1.384V the most (as compared to how often the voltage drops down).

Note: at 0.025V, it failed Prime95 Blend after about 4 hours and 40 minutes, but I have not yet tested 0.030V



So these are your settings for stable 4.8Ghz? What are your temperatures?
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Id say its warm at the moment. I may have something at work that i can borrow to just give me an idea hopefully.

I applied about a pea sized tim to the middle of the processof and put alot of pressure. I may try your suggestion of bringing the case out from behind the tv to see if theres any comparable difference.
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