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So does the custom setting mean you can cut down on the length of time needed to prime?
Rush testing is a good way to find out if your overclock will last in the usual 15 minutes per FFT for 12 hours +.

When using 1 minute per FFT you will get through all FFT's much faster and get the Vcore fluctuations. Often Prime 95 will fail on certain FFT's. This way is a fast way to get a good indication before you do a overnight usual 15 minute per FFT.

If using 1 minute per FFT, running it for 30 - 60 minutes should do.
    
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Rush testing is a good way to find out if your overclock will last in the usual 15 minutes per FFT for 12 hours +.

When using 1 minute per FFT you will get through all FFT's much faster and get the Vcore fluctuations. Often Prime 95 will fail on certain FFT's. This way is a fast way to get a good indication before you do a overnight usual 15 minute per FFT.

If using 1 minute per FFT, running it for 30 - 60 minutes should do.
Thank you again turrican9.. Always a beacon of knowledge!

My last clock run (4.6ghz 1.37) is 4hours blended so far. Need to setup an overnight job soon to be certain!
post #2223 of 9343
Almost 20 hours... I think I've found my stable 4.8 settings!! I am pretty happy with the temps as well. Going to be running Linx after it hits 20 hours to double sure it.
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Doing a Prime 95 Blend Custom rush test now... 6000MB and one minute per FFT. This 2500K is sooo Vcore hungry... It sits at 1.464v - 1.488v Vcore under load at 4.8GHz now. The good news is that my TRUE 120 with the CM Hyper 212+ fan on it, seems to cope with this load... until now the hottest temps seen is - 70c, 75c, 76c and 73c for the cores.
Ambient temp?
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Be sure to sure post a prime blend screenshot in my thread, the sandy stable club

EDIT: Just add your name with notepad and post that screenie over there, would be happy for you to join the club
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Just posted Now time to try for 5Ghz... will be fun lol
Edited by xtnod - 7/21/11 at 6:33pm
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I was previously wrong: I never had "CPU C3 Report" and "CPU C6 Report" enabled! They were set to Auto!

So I enabled them and guess what! I got a BSOD within 5 minutes. lol So I set them both back to Auto and it's all good now. I know I should just set them both to Disabled, but they've been set to Auto this entire time and I haven't had any BSODs.

Here are my current settings, still not fully tested:

Ai Tweaker
  • Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
  • BLCK/PCIE Frequency: 100.0
  • Turbo Ratio: By All Cores
  • By All Cores: 48
  • Internal PLL Voltage: Enabled
  • Memory Frequency: DDR3-1866MHz
  • DRAM Timing Control: 9-11-9-28-1T
  • EPU Power Saving MODE: Disabled


Ai Tweaker\\ CPU Power Management >
  • CPU Ratio: Auto
  • Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
  • Turbo Mode: Enabled
  • Long Duration Power Limit: Auto
  • Long Duration Maintained: Auto
  • Short Duration Power Limit: Auto
  • Additional Turbo Voltage: Auto
  • Primary Plane Current Limit: Auto


Ai Tweaker (in the DIGI+ VRM section)
  • Load-Line Calibration: Ultra High
  • VRM Frequency: Manual
  • VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
  • Phase Control: Extreme
  • Duty Control: Extreme
  • CPU Current Capability: 140%
  • CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
  • Offset Mode Sign: +
  • CPU Offset Voltage: 0.040V
  • DRAM Voltage: 1.5000
  • VCCSA Voltage: Auto
  • VCCIO Voltage: 1.15625V
  • CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
  • PCH Voltage: Auto
  • CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled


Advanced\\ CPU Configuration >
  • CPU Ratio: Auto
  • Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Enabled
  • Active Processor Cores: All
  • Limit CPUID Maximum: Disabled
  • Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
  • Intel Virtualization Technology: Disabled
  • Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
  • Turbo Mode: Enabled
  • CPU C1E: Enabled
  • CPU C3 Report: Auto
  • CPU C6 Report: Auto

My previous Offset Voltage was +0.035V, but my system only lasted 6 hours and 17 minutes in Prime95's Blend test. However, my full load voltage wasn't all that different with 0.035V as compared to using +0.030V. Using +0.040V raises my full load voltage so high that it even hits 1.400V on occasion.


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Thx again for all these tips. I got my bios configured according to your suggested values now, for VCCIO Voltage i set 1,1V, for Offset Voltage 0,010.
My CPU Voltage in AI Suite now is no more 1,344, but 1,368. Despite this the CPU seems to stay around 66-70°C during stress test like before, even a little bit lower. Whats apparent is, that the fluctuation is higher.
Can you copy all of my settings above except for the Memory Frequency and DRAM Timing Control? Some of these new settings I posted might be different from what I recommended before, such as the C3 and C6 states.

For Memory Frequency and DRAM Timing Control, use what is printed on the stickers on your memory sticks. Also be sure to use the voltage that is printed on there as well.


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Also I set my RAM to 1866Mhz at 1,5V with CL9-10-9-24-1T, which I tested stable before.
But your sig rig says that you have 2133MHz memory. Use your memory's clock speed, voltage and timings as printed on their stickers.


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When I woke up this morning, I looked at the Temperatures on my Iphone BT remote app and saw, that mainboard temperature was 123°C. I think this was an error, because in jumped to it from 33°C in one measuring time interval in AI Suite Recorder. I put my fingers into the case and say, this is not possible, must have been an error. Also, this did not change, even after stopping prime. Speedfan also reported this temp. After rebooting i was back at 33°C.

Now I will get to work, while stress testing with prime95 blend, 8 threads. My girlfriend will look if temperatures are ok and if not switch testing off in the meantime and report to me . Hoping to get stable results and even potential to rise multiplier again (now its 46, like before).

And yes, my CPUinfo shows the right timings in the memory tabs every time I look at them.

Test now runs stable for 20 min, hope will stay stable.
We'll get there!


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Update: I left my computer on over night(10h) without any programs running, and i didn't BSOD. So for me, this is another possible option for stopping the idle BSOD. turrican9, if your could test this out yourself and confirm this method works for you, then i think we have a winner. And if anyone else can help me confirm that it works, it would be appreciated.

Acording to ASUS(JJ), 4.8GHz will generally require 1.415V or 1.42 with LLC ultra high, and the settings they mentioned. It seems to be about right for me, as i need about 1.41V(untested) for 4.8GHz and similar settings.
I have the i5-2500K, and I have a rock-solid stable 4.7GHz overclock using about 1.352V - 1.368V. So overclocking the i7-2600K to 4.8GHz should require about the same vCore because it's basically the same overclock (1.0 GHz above the stock Turbo multiplier).

I am also currently trying 4.8GHz, and so far it is doing extremely well with about 1.384V - 1.392V - 1.400V (that's the range I see while it's fluctuating).

So 1.415V - 1.425V seems extremely high to me for overclocking the i7-2600K to only 4.8 GHz.


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Its needed if you can't boot into the OS with your OC(freeze or BSOD). Generally its required at 4.4GHz-4.7GHz according to ASUS(JJ). For me, its needed at ~4.65GHz. An easy way to get an idea of when you need it is to use all the settings you would when your at a high OC(4.8-5.0GHz), then disable Internal PLL Overvoltage and run extreme auto tuning in AI Suite.

PS - I failed hard and edited this post instead of posting a new one
Wow. 0.095V would make my full load voltage become 1.45V. I would never be comfortable with that for 24/7 use even though it is only using that much when it needs it thanks to being dynamically adjusted based on CPU load.

I'd rather just leave C3 and C6 disabled!
Edited by TwoCables - 7/21/11 at 11:52pm
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My previous Offset Voltage was +0.035V, but my system only lasted 6 hours and 17 minutes in Prime95's Blend test. However, my full load voltage wasn't all that different with 0.035V as compared to using +0.030V. Using +0.040V raises my full load voltage so high that it even hits 1.400V on occasion.
My offset voltage setting was at 0.02V, getting load voltages up to 1.376V.

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Can you copy all of my settings above except for the Memory Frequency and DRAM Timing Control? Some of these new settings I posted might be different from what I recommended before, such as the C3 and C6 states.
I will, as soon as I have time to.

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For Memory Frequency and DRAM Timing Control, use what is printed on the stickers on your memory sticks. Also be sure to use the voltage that is printed on there as well.
Got the settings back to the X.M.P. Values which are:
2133Mhz CL9-11-9-28-1N at 1,65V
But I will use printed values instead, which are:
2133Mhz CL9-11-9-28-2N at 1,65V

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But your sig rig says that you have 2133MHz memory. Use your memory's clock speed, voltage and timings as printed on their stickers.
Hehe, the sig rig. I think I will tidy up this mess once I have a really stable setting. Changed the data in there very frequently this week, so that there might have been false values.


I ordered 2 new fans for my Corsair H80 Cooler:
Enermax Vegas Trio 120mm UCTVT12P,
which should arrive today.

I hope having more airflow will help getting temps down, which got up to 73°C under load. I even had turbo mode switched off automatically while Prime blend testing for some reason. After 20 seconds it was switched back on again. Did not understand why, yet. An earlier post shows the screenshot with the thermal curve showing 4 low temp phases due to automatic downclocking.

Till the fans aren't in, I will no more do any testing.
     
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I have the i5-2500K, and I have a rock-solid stable 4.7GHz overclock using about 1.352V - 1.368V. So overclocking the i7-2600K to 4.8GHz should require about the same vCore because it's basically the same overclock (1.0 GHz above the stock Turbo multiplier).

I am also currently trying 4.8GHz, and so far it is doing extremely well with about 1.384V - 1.392V - 1.400V (that's the range I see while it's fluctuating).

So 1.415V - 1.425V seems extremely high to me for overclocking the i7-2600K to only 4.8 GHz.
I'm almost certain that's not how it works. The i5 and i7 are the same chip except for hyper threading(and 100MHz), so they would require the same approximate Vcore at a certain clock speed.
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Wow. 0.095V would make my full load voltage become 1.45V. I would never be comfortable with that for 24/7 use even though it is only using that much when it needs it thanks to being dynamically adjusted based on CPU load.

I'd rather just leave C3 and C6 disabled!
It wouldn't make your load voltage 1.45 since you are compensating for the higher offset Vcore with lower LLC. Once you set the correct offset, you will have the same load voltage. But i need other people to help me confirm this. It works for me, but i need to see if it causes my Vcore to be higher than with lower offset and higher LLC.
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My offset voltage setting was at 0.02V, getting load voltages up to 1.376V.



I will, as soon as I have time to.



Got the settings back to the X.M.P. Values which are:
2133Mhz CL9-11-9-28-1N at 1,65V
But I will use printed values instead, which are:
2133Mhz CL9-11-9-28-2N at 1,65V



Hehe, the sig rig. I think I will tidy up this mess once I have a really stable setting. Changed the data in there very frequently this week, so that there might have been false values.


I ordered 2 new fans for my Corsair H80 Cooler:
Enermax Vegas Trio 120mm UCTVT12P,
which should arrive today.

I hope having more airflow will help getting temps down, which got up to 73°C under load. I even had turbo mode switched off automatically while Prime blend testing for some reason. After 20 seconds it was switched back on again. Did not understand why, yet. An earlier post shows the screenshot with the thermal curve showing 4 low temp phases due to automatic downclocking.

Till the fans aren't in, I will no more do any testing.
I didn't see a screenshot on my end (I know that you're referring to an earlier post).

Can you post just the URL instead of using IMG tags? That might enable me to see it.


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I'm almost certain that's not how it works. The i5 and i7 are the same chip except for hyper threading(and 100MHz), so they would require the same approximate Vcore at a certain clock speed.
Well still: it looks to me like most people don't need more than 1.4V to reach 4.8 GHz (at least based on what I have seen so far here on OCN).


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It wouldn't make your load voltage 1.45 since you are compensating for the higher offset Vcore with lower LLC. Once you set the correct offset, you will have the same load voltage. But i need other people to help me confirm this. It works for me, but i need to see if it causes my Vcore to be higher than with lower offset and higher LLC.
I didn't test it; I only added it to what Core Temp says my VID is.

When I add 0.040V to what Core Temp says my VID is, I end up with 1.3961V. Under full load, I see a range of 1.384V to 1.392V, so Core Temp is accurately reading my VID. So since I know that Core Temp is accurately reading my VID, I know that 0.095V added to it would result in me seeing about 1.45V under full load.

This is with my current settings as posted a couple posts above.
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