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Thanks for the help. I am pretty much sold, still not convinced that I can get a stable OC with one click of a button. i will still probably rather OC manually. I've been reading about double posts/restarts. I'm also a little worried about the recall. Am I guaranteed to get a good one from newegg? I've never received a bad/doa product from them before. but a lot of the reviewers have been reporting problems.
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Originally Posted by TFL Replica View Post
Faster access to UEFI is good, I'll probably follow suit but I couldn't care less for boot times. It doesn't occur often enough for me.
I'm talking about reboot (or "restart") time, not the boot time. That's why I talked about the little .vbs script that tells me how long it takes for my computer to restart.

Besides, why would you not disable Full Screen Logo?


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If it gives much faster access to bios by Disabling full screen logo then it's a win for me.
Amen!


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Hey gang,

I've been a LGA775 user for about 2 years, p5q pro turbo with q9550. I'm getting fed up with the limitations of the board, having trouble getting to OC to 4.0ghz due to ram limitations. I am considering parting out my old 775 setup and opting for an i7 2600k build. So whats the deal with p67 and p68? Long term wise, which is better for upgrades and OC ability?
Concerning overclockability, it mostly depends on the CPU now. I mean, it's extremely different from socket 775.

Also, the only real reason for going with the 2600K over the 2500K is for HyperThreading. So if you aren't doing anything that takes advantage of it, then the 2500K is a much wiser purchase. Plus, the 2500K is usually $100 less than the 2600K.


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The equity in my cpu now is still pretty high, I can get 200 bucks for it easily. And my mobo and ram would sell as well for not a bad price, making my upgrade pretty cheap. (around 230 bucks or so if I sell some of my parts and spares on ebay)

So what should I do?

I'm thinking:

-ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67
-CORSAIR Vengeance 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
-Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W

i may even sell my gtx 260s off for like 60 bucks each and just get a gtx460, and maybe a 2nd one later for SLI.

So what is the best lga standard to get? 1155 seems to be the best bet at the moment.

Also will my Cooler master GT V6 clear the heat syncs of the NB and the ram I want? I want to OC to about 4.2 to 4.4. I do NOT want to deal with ram timings and voltages. I want a fairly easy breezy OC.

EDIT: Also p67 or z68? Not sure what to get...
The P67 chipset is perfect for most of us while the Z68 chipset has a couple of features that you might be interested in. So compare, compare, compare. Although, both chipsets are equal in terms of overclockability.

In regards to the specific motherboard: a motherboard like the P8P67 Deluxe is major overkill; it's best purchased by overclockers who plan on doing very extreme overclocking using sub-zero cooling. Even the plain P8P67 (not the LE, but just the plain P8P67) is said to be good enough for achieving 4.8GHz with air cooling!

Regarding your 260s: I recommend keeping them until you finish your upgrade to Sandy Bridge. I think you'll be surprised. Plus, it will enable you to have a clearer idea of what graphics card you want to get (I'm assuming you will upgrade anyway just so you can take advantage of DX11).


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Awesome, well I think I am sold. Last thing is, I want to make sure the heat-syncs of the ram don't touch my cooler. I want to run x4 of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145346

Anyone have any troubles with massive heat syncs rubbing against the cm gt v6?

Yeah I'll hold off for a while before I sell them. They've stood the test of time for sure. main thing is, I want dx11 sometime down the road.
Heatsink, not heat sync.

Anyway, 2 sticks are better than 4 for this very reason. For example: if I had purchased a kit that has 4 sticks in it, then I would not have been able to use all 4 of them because the Frio blocks the first black slot (the pushing fan blocks it). The heatspreader of these Ripjaws X series sticks is just high enough to be slightly in front of the fan that's pushing air through the Frio, and it's just millimeters apart from it (in the first blue slot). So it's clear to me that even the shorter heatspreaders of the Ripjaws X are too high to have the first black slot populated.

So definitely get a 2-stick kit! Here's one that I highly recommend (this is not what I have):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231445

$59.99 shipped after the promo code, but it ends tomorrow!

This is a 2 x 4GB 1600MHz CL8 kit (1.5V!) of G.SKILL's Ripjaws X series with beautiful blue anodized heatspreaders that are perfect match to the blue heatsinks on these P8P67/P8Z68 boards. Their pictures do not do the color of these heatspreaders justice.

There's also this kit for $49.99 shipped that has the same specs, except with CL9 (this is currently a Shell Shocker):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231428

These pics make the red heatspreaders look ugly, but they're beautiful in person. I have the 1866MHz version of this kit which has these red heatspreaders, and they're absolutely gorgeous. They even seem to be an excellent compliment to the blue heatsinks on the P8P67 EVO!


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Thanks for the help. I am pretty much sold, still not convinced that I can get a stable OC with one click of a button. i will still probably rather OC manually.
Meh. I think every single one of us are overclocking manually (I don't know of anyone who is even using the software called ASUS Ai Suite II). After all, we are much better at overclocking than a machine.


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I've been reading about double posts/restarts. I'm also a little worried about the recall. Am I guaranteed to get a good one from newegg? I've never received a bad/doa product from them before. but a lot of the reviewers have been reporting problems.
As long as you purchase a B3 (a.k.a. Rev. 3.0), then you'll get one.

I got my P8P67 EVO from Newegg, and it's working flawlessly!
Edited by TwoCables - 8/2/11 at 2:03pm
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I think dlerch wants 16GB RAM, that's why he said 4 sticks...

8GB is plenty though..
    
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I think dlerch wants 16GB RAM, that's why he said 4 sticks...

8GB is plenty though..
Many people want 16GB while almost all of them only need 4 or 8 (some only need 2!).
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Many people want 16GB while almost all of them only need 4 or 8 (some only need 2!).
I've thought about going 16GB!
But, the only time I'd use 16GB of Ram, is when running Intel Burn test
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If one needed 16GB RAM for something... I wonder if it would suffice just using the Swap file on a SSD, since they are so fast. Of course, much slower VS RAM, but still much faster then a harddrive. Also the ability to write many things at the same time.
    
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Two Cables, you are awesome. You answered all my questions.

Those memory kits are nice, 2500k may work but I am a video editor. So HyperThreading is something I will more than likely utilize. Though saving 100 bucks is tempting. Also, when you are editing 4k or 2k raw footage, 16gb of ram is easily consumed.

Also not all the lower level P8P67 chip-sets have SLI support. I can use the SLI patch, though it was a nightmare getting it to work correctly with my p5q pro turbo, I'm sure it will work fine. I'm just curious if the patch causes instability. The pro and evo look pretty good, considering SLI support is a big seller for me. Even if I get a gtx 470 down the road I may want to pick up another because the price is right.

I'm going to stick with the 260s for now, i think that is good advice. I will eventually want dx11 support but it isn't a pressing need. Mainly I just want out of lga775 hell. So now I have some options. Ahhh decision time.

I'm embarrassed that I typed "heatsync." Generally I have pretty decent grammar, vernacular, and spelling. It's just one of those days. Where is my damn coffee!

Also, I plan to make this new rig a dual boot. One of my drives will have Lion on it, though I'm trying not to get ahead of myself. First thing first, get a stable OC with these parts.
Edited by dlerch - 8/2/11 at 2:30pm
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If one needed 16GB RAM for something... I wonder if it would suffice just using the Swap file on a SSD, since they are so fast. Of course, much slower VS RAM, but still much faster then a harddrive. Also the ability to write many things at the same time.
Running full size page file here! And still have 30GB free on my OS SSD

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Two Cables, you are awesome. You answered all my questions.
Nah, OCN is awesome.


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Those memory kits are nice, 2500k may work but I am a video editor. So HyperThreading is something I will more than likely utilize. Though saving 100 bucks is tempting. Also, when you are editing 4k or 2k raw footage, 16gb of ram is easily consumed.
Oh! Then by all means go for the 2600K. It will be fantastic for these uses with HyperThreading enabled!


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Also not all the lower level P8P67 chip-sets have SLI support. I can use the SLI patch, though it was a nightmare getting it to work correctly with my p5q pro turbo, I'm sure it will work fine. I'm just curious if the patch causes instability. The pro and evo look pretty good, considering SLI support is a big seller for me. Even if I get a gtx 470 down the road I may want to pick up another because the price is right.

I'm going to stick with the 260s for now, i think that is good advice. I will eventually want dx11 support but it isn't a pressing need. Mainly I just want out of lga775 hell. So now I have some options. Ahhh decision time.
Plus, once you see the performance of the 260s with the upgrade to Sandy Bridge, you will have an even clearer idea of what you want to upgrade to because the performance will increase a bit!


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I'm embarrassed that I typed "heatsync." Generally I have pretty decent grammar, vernacular, and spelling. It's just one of those days. Where is my damn coffee!
hehe "...and please drop the vernacular". "Vernacular?! That's a Derby!"

2 points if you know what that's from.


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Also, I plan to make this new rig a dual boot. One of my drives will have Lion on it, though I'm trying not to get ahead of myself. First thing first, get a stable OC with these parts.
Right on!
Edited by TwoCables - 8/2/11 at 10:01pm
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