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Tried moving your system to another room or something? Maybe there is something which gives electromagnetic interference or something nearby where you have your PC??
Nahh. Don't know what that could be. Same spot as my (here we go again ;8 ) old pc was at , and that never gave me a hard time. New mod arriving today. will build it asap. Also got a new hdd to get a fresh install. ( did that on the gene-z to, but that disk is 2 years.)
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Do you have one 4-stick kit, or two 2-stick kits together?
2x 4gig vengeance sticks.
Corsair Vengeance™ DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9Kit w/2x 4GB, CL9-9-9-24, 1.5V, Vengeance Red Heatspreader, 240 pin

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=640646

if you have the time you can have a look here to see how I tested last week to se if my sticks were the problem, ore if it could be the psu ore the board.(3 post's in row)

http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...l#post15381661

It lasted 2 day's after the test at my friends house and then it suddenly rebooted again. , and gave me the overklock fail, all on auto, but mem speed set to 1333. If I stick with all auto and mem speed 1066, it's solid. No biggi for me, but everybody else is humming along at 1333 ore 1600 and clocking the cpu and having a good time.
New board will be here today, so I will get right on it build, so then we will se if the problems continue, ore maybe it's the cpu ore the psu.
Edited by maxmekker - 10/25/11 at 12:59am
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Get me onto that list, cause I have an ASUS at home!
Nice laptop, but a bit too heavy.
But it can play vob.
http://vobplayer.org/
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i just wanna get offset and PLL overvoltage correct.

currently I passed 11 hours of Prime with vcore of 1.25 manual and overvoltage on auto for 4.5ghz.

if I want to use offset so it lowers vcore when not needed do I need to reset my bios settings to see the default vcore and then add the offset to get it to 1.25? Also should I leave overvoltage on auto?

edit:

switched over voltage off and got offset to - 0.100.
on cpu-z while running prime my vcore is 1.248 - 1.256.
Edited by nekromantik - 10/25/11 at 6:46am
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Try speed fan.
But the Chassis 2 fan works. I'm just wondering why the fan icon is colored grey, does it have some meaning to it? Can anyone confirm this?
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Man im bummed out. i woke up this morning thinking sweet ive passed almost 9 hours of prime 95 at 5ghz on air(non hyperthreaded). then i look at the max temps which are perfectly good however i see that only 3 out of 4 cores are stressed. i look at prime and my core 0 failed with in 10 minutes while the other 3 cores ran perfectly fine all night long.
    
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So it's always recommended to disable the C3/C6 states when overclocking and using SSDs? I'll have an M4 soon and should it have higher throughput if these CPU power states are disabled?
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2x 4gig vengeance sticks.
Corsair Vengeance™ DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9Kit w/2x 4GB, CL9-9-9-24, 1.5V, Vengeance Red Heatspreader, 240 pin

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=640646

if you have the time you can have a look here to see how I tested last week to se if my sticks were the problem, ore if it could be the psu ore the board.(3 post's in row)

http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...l#post15381661

It lasted 2 day's after the test at my friends house and then it suddenly rebooted again. , and gave me the overklock fail, all on auto, but mem speed set to 1333. If I stick with all auto and mem speed 1066, it's solid. No biggi for me, but everybody else is humming along at 1333 ore 1600 and clocking the cpu and having a good time.
New board will be here today, so I will get right on it build, so then we will se if the problems continue, ore maybe it's the cpu ore the psu.
Wait a sec. Are you saying that you have two 2x4GB kits? 4 sticks in total?


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i just wanna get offset and PLL overvoltage correct.

currently I passed 11 hours of Prime with vcore of 1.25 manual and overvoltage on auto for 4.5ghz.

if I want to use offset so it lowers vcore when not needed do I need to reset my bios settings to see the default vcore and then add the offset to get it to 1.25?
Nope.

I recommend using a Load-Line Calibration of Ultra High, and then I recommend checking your VID in Real Temp by clicking this button:





Then find the difference between the VID and the core voltage that you want to achieve. When you find that difference, try different Offsets in that range.

For example: my VID is 1.3561V to 1.3611V (it flip-flops, which is normal) and the core voltage I want is 1.392V to 1.400V. The differences are 0.0309V/0.0359V - to 0.0389V/0.0439V. After experimentation using an LLC of Ultra High, I achieved my target core voltage by using +0.040V. Every CPU and motherboard is unique, so experimentation is required.


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Also should I leave overvoltage on auto?
Not with this overclock. I recommend leaving it Disabled. Generally, Internal PLL Overvoltage is intended for multipliers of like 48x or more if a system cannot boot. So if a system can boot with Internal PLL Overvoltage disabled, then it's not needed - not even on Auto.


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So it's always recommended to disable the C3/C6 states when overclocking and using SSDs? I'll have an M4 soon and should it have higher throughput if these CPU power states are disabled?
The only reason for disabling C3 and C6 is when using an Offset Voltage. Disabling C3 and C6 prevents the voltage from going too low while idling which ends up preventing BSODs or lock-ups while idling or while there's a very low load (again, only when using an Offset voltage).
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post #4669 of 9343
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Wait a sec. Are you saying that you have two 2x4GB kits? 4 sticks in total?



Nope.

I recommend using a Load-Line Calibration of Ultra High, and then I recommend checking your VID in Real Temp by clicking this button:





Then find the difference between the VID and the core voltage that you want to achieve. When you find that difference, try different Offsets in that range.

For example: my VID is 1.3561V to 1.3611V (it flip-flops, which is normal) and the core voltage I want is 1.392V to 1.400V. The differences are 0.0309V/0.0359V - to 0.0389V/0.0439V. After experimentation using an LLC of Ultra High, I achieved my target core voltage by using +0.040V. Every CPU and motherboard is unique, so experimentation is required.



Not with this overclock. I recommend leaving it Disabled. Generally, Internal PLL Overvoltage is intended for multipliers of like 48x or more if a system cannot boot. So if a system can boot with Internal PLL Overvoltage disabled, then it's not needed - not even on Auto.



The only reason for disabling C3 and C6 is when using an Offset Voltage. Disabling C3 and C6 prevents the voltage from going too low while idling which ends up preventing BSODs or lock-ups while idling or while there's a very low load (again, only when using an Offset voltage).
How does Offset work? To my understanding, it simply adds/subtracts to the Auto value of the Vcore determined by the BIOS, right? I'm reading that many OCN overclockers are using Offset which supposed to produce better results than using manual?

With Offset, at what instance would the Vcore be very low when C3/C6 are enabled? And it is also already proven that disabling them would produce better SSD throughputs even though Offset is disabled, right?
post #4670 of 9343
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How does Offset work? To my understanding, it simply adds/subtracts to the Auto value of the Vcore determined by the BIOS, right?
I don't know, but it looks to me like it really is simply added or subtracted to or from the VID as I described above.


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I'm reading that many OCN overclockers are using Offset which supposed to produce better results than using manual?
I do not know whether or produces better results than using manual. All I have noticed so far is that we prefer Offset because it allows the core voltage to dynamically adjusted based on the load instead of being at the full voltage 24/7.


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With Offset, at what instance would the Vcore be very low when C3/C6 are enabled?
Very low load and idle.

When C3 and C6 are enabled, the voltage goes as low as possible. With C3 and C6 disabled, this floor is raised a little bit.


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And it is also already proven that disabling them would produce better SSD throughputs even though Offset is disabled, right?
I really don't know. All I know is that Juan Jose ("JJ" at ASUS) said that disabling the C-States can reduce HDD and SSD performance on the SATA III ports. Here are his words:

"In addition continued testing with Internal PLL Overvoltage enabled and D2 or retail parts have shown some benefits to CStates being disabled when approaching, at or exceeding a 50x multiplier. An important note to keep in mind is that disabling CStates can considerably affect HDD performance ( especially SATA6G ) Please keep this in mind when going for the highest level overclocks."

Source: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578110
Edited by TwoCables - 10/25/11 at 10:10pm
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