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How low of an IDLE voltage does 1600MHz need anyway? Or is it still different for any one system?
Seems to be different from system to system, based on what I've seen.
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I think 1600MHz needs a very low Vcore. Even lower than we see in every configuration. I think the problem is when it's ramping speed up and down, and the Vcore's in-between.
Edited by turrican9 - 11/4/11 at 11:15am
    
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I think 1600MHz needs a very low Vcore. Even lower that we see in every configuration. I think the problem is when it's ramping speed up and down, and the Vcore's in-between.
That is the most logical explanation. All my BSODs have been 124 or 101. As far as I can tell they must be caused by idling as I have not messed with any voltages except Vcore. They seem quite random, but the ones that happened outside of Prime95 tests did all happen while I was doing some sort of light browsing/running spotify, skype etc. where there might have been spikes to 4.5ghz. The rest of the time my system seemed to be fine in the 0.8v region while not doing anything at all.
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Tried turning off User Account Control?

Are you using any 3 party Antivirus/Firewall software? If so, try disabling it.
Haven't tried to disable user account control, I will as soon as i get home. I did have MSE, but when i did the re-install on a different hard drive i did not install MSE

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Hi, Rubble.
ASUS released a patch for previous issues with AI Suite II on the P67 motherboards. At first it didn't work for me, but when I copied the install files over to my primary drive the installer finally launched. This might or might not work for you as your problem is not identical to mine. And remember to launch as administrator.

http://support.asus.com/download.asp...3PdnZI9Pq9BcIU
I will try this as well, thanks for your input, the monitoring suite i can live with out I use CPU-Z and their HW-Z (cant remember the name). To overclock i dont mind rebooting my system I have a fast second gen sandforce SSD. The one feature that I would like to see working is being able to look at my temps on my iphone, this way i dont have to worry about temps while gaming
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Haven't tried to disable user account control, I will as soon as i get home. I did have MSE, but when i did the re-install on a different hard drive i did not install MSE
MSE should cause no trouble.

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New asus p8z68-v/gen3 user here. Have a 2600k at 4.5g and test the stability now. Just want to say HI.
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That is the most logical explanation. All my BSODs have been 124 or 101. As far as I can tell they must be caused by idling as I have not messed with any voltages except Vcore. They seem quite random, but the ones that happened outside of Prime95 tests did all happen while I was doing some sort of light browsing/running spotify, skype etc. where there might have been spikes to 4.5ghz. The rest of the time my system seemed to be fine in the 0.8v region while not doing anything at all.
Certainly no expert here but I also had a problem with idle speed lock ups. Never a problem @ load. With help from a couple guys on OCN I was able to resolve the problem.

It came down to disabling the C3/C6 states and adjusting the offset and LLC to where I was able to pass prime 12 hrs and keep my lowest idle volts to about 1.00 volt. It occasionally drops to .992v but no further.

My offset is + 0.005 and my LLC is medium. Yours of course will vary but my 4.4 is now problem free.

Hope this helps someone
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I actually understand what LLC does and what you said are all correct. So I just want to confirm this: LLC only affects the IDLE voltage because for ANY LLC level, you can have the same load voltage (by adjusting Offset value) but NEVER the same idle voltage. Is that correct analysis?
Different LLC values affect the full-load voltage which means that for each different LLC value, a different Offset or Manual voltage must be used to compensate (it doesn't matter if it's Offset or Manual).


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How low of an IDLE voltage does 1600MHz need anyway? Or is it still different for any one system?
The reason why we get idle freezes and idle BSODs with an Offset voltage when C3 and C6 are disabled is that a small load on the CPU causes the clock speed to go all the way up (there is no in between like there is with the voltage), and so sometimes the voltage doesn't go up to a high-enough value to keep the full clock speed stable at a bigger overclock like mine.

So the reason why I got that one lock-up that I got was because when that YouTube video ended, my system went into a 100% idle state, but as it transitioned, the clock speed probably stayed at 100% while the voltage dropped too low thereby causing a lock-up. Disabling C3 and C6 would have prevented this, but I had it on Auto and I do not know what I was thinking.

So, it's not about how much voltage 1.6GHz needs. It's about preventing the voltage from going so low that it locks up or results in a BSOD due to the clock speed still being at 100%.
Edited by TwoCables - 11/4/11 at 1:19pm
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TwoCables, I had a few things I wanted to post here. LLC and some other stuff... But I'm leaving it out right now, since I'm somewhat drunk
    
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