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Originally Posted by MaStA819 View Post

I am following TwoCables settings on the original post exactly except I am running my 2500k at 4.6ghz (46 x 100).
I am able to use the negative offset voltage instead of positive. Currently I have it at - .04v and I am able to pass ten IBT tests at maximum stress level. The highest core voltage I see in CPU-Z is 1.336 v at full load which sounds good I guess. It just seems strange to me that I can take it negative in the offset voltage with being overclocked to 4.6 ghz when TwoCables uses + .04v to get to 4.8ghz. Is this normal?
I was running different settings that were stable, but I wasn't happy with my temps reaching 85C or so under full load with IBT. I noticed my voltage seemed a bit higher than I think it needed to be so I started reading this thread and came up with a way to lower my temps and still be stable (at least it seems so far).
I haven't been reading about computer stuff since I built this system so any input would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Jared

Depends on your settings
Using load line calibration
at max or high or reg?
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Originally Posted by Tyreman View Post

Depends on your settings
Using load line calibration
at max or high or reg?

I am using the exact same settings as TwoCables on the original post of this thread other than mine is 46x100 and I am using the - .04v offset. So to answer your question my settings are like this.

Load-Line Calibration: Ultra High
VRM Frequency: Manual
VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: Extreme
CPU Current Capability: 140%
CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
Offset Mode Sign: -
CPU Offset Voltage: 0.040V
DRAM Voltage: 1.5
VCCSA Voltage: Auto
VCCIO Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled
post #5164 of 9370
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Originally Posted by MaStA819 View Post

I am following TwoCables settings on the original post exactly except I am running my 2500k at 4.6ghz (46 x 100).

I am able to use the negative offset voltage instead of positive. Currently I have it at - .04v and I am able to pass ten IBT tests at maximum stress level. The highest core voltage I see in CPU-Z is 1.336 v at full load which sounds good I guess. It just seems strange to me that I can take it negative in the offset voltage with being overclocked to 4.6 ghz when TwoCables uses + .04v to get to 4.8ghz. Is this normal?

I was running different settings that were stable, but I wasn't happy with my temps reaching 85C or so under full load with IBT. I noticed my voltage seemed a bit higher than I think it needed to be so I started reading this thread and came up with a way to lower my temps and still be stable (at least it seems so far).

I haven't been reading about computer stuff since I built this system so any input would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Jared

Note TwoCables setting CPU Current Capability: 140% if you are using this for the x46 multi it is no wonder you have higher than needed vCore try 130% for the lower clock and start from there. Lower voltage is always better and always depends on the proc it self. We all should try to tweak down our voltages and when templates are provided bare in mind they are only a starting points and your system will most certainly be different in what it actually needs for stability. Anything that end up less than what someone else needs is a plus and in the end means less heat, wear and tear on your system components. I'd also think you could run 1.65 VCCIO instead of the default 1.8v. Keep in mind here all the auto setting will likely be higher than actual required.
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Originally Posted by uniwarking View Post

Hey guys, is it normal for the motherboard to show extreme temps? Like 123C? I have a P8P67 rev 3.1 board it it will display warnings fromt time to time... also shows in HWMonitor. Seems odd, don't think it's real.

If you are speaking of the CPUTIN voltage from HWMonitor it is notorious for miss reporting however you would want to pay attention to the CPU Core Temps which normally report correctly. I just don't trust it when it already misreports stuff, I believe even Asus software (AISuite) misreports the same and I recommend not installing either on your system. I use Aida Extreme (paid ver) for monitoring and all reports accurately
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Started my first build and hopefully this is newbie paranoia.........if not it's my first big mistake:

During installation of a cooler master hyper 212 EVO, the standoffs that the heat sink mounting bracket screws into turned slightly when I reached resistance on the screws. Thinking back they may have also turned a little when tightening the mounting plate nuts for the second time as I may not have adequately held the standoffs.

Consequently, as I am looking at where the bottom of the standoffs meet the top of the motherboard I am seeing a little white substance in places at the edge of standoffs. Touching it with a very small screwdriver I can move it and it has a "plasticky" feel to it. I am guessing it is some sort of coating from the motherboard that was roughed-up/scraped from the standoffs turning. I am hoping it is a coating from the bottom of the standoffs being squeezed out.

Is there concern for unwanted metal contact (bottom of standoff w/mobo) and shorting something out, or am I paranoid.....

Forgot to add its an Asus P8Z68-V pro/gen3
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Originally Posted by owcraftsman View Post

If you are speaking of the CPUTIN voltage from HWMonitor it is notorious for miss reporting however you would want to pay attention to the CPU Core Temps which normally report correctly. I just don't trust it when it already misreports stuff, I believe even Asus software (AISuite) misreports the same and I recommend not installing either on your system. I use Aida Extreme (paid ver) for monitoring and all reports accurately

Thanks for the response. Yes, I am seeing odd temps and fan speeds... which wasn't the case in the first week of ownership.

SYSTIN, CPUTIN, AUXTIN... all reporing 123C or 127C at random. Also, max RPM's on the fan speeds misreports at like 60,000 RPM and occasionally HWMonitor shows a fan that doesn't exist (at zero or around 30 RPM).

The only changes I've made since the build is installing the Asus Suite 2 software and installing a H100 cooler in place of a hyper 212+.

EDIT: Core temps are fine, looking at them in RealTemp at around 50C loaded (60 C intelburntest max).
post #5167 of 9370
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Originally Posted by MaStA819 View Post

I am using the exact same settings as TwoCables on the original post of this thread other than mine is 46x100 and I am using the - .04v offset. So to answer your question my settings are like this.
Load-Line Calibration: Ultra High
VRM Frequency: Manual
VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: Extreme
CPU Current Capability: 140%
CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
Offset Mode Sign: -
CPU Offset Voltage: 0.040V
DRAM Voltage: 1.5
VCCSA Voltage: Auto
VCCIO Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled

Try cpu current capability at 130%
Thats what I use
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Originally Posted by uniwarking View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by owcraftsman View Post

If you are speaking of the CPUTIN voltage from HWMonitor it is notorious for miss reporting however you would want to pay attention to the CPU Core Temps which normally report correctly. I just don't trust it when it already misreports stuff, I believe even Asus software (AISuite) misreports the same and I recommend not installing either on your system. I use Aida Extreme (paid ver) for monitoring and all reports accurately

Thanks for the response. Yes, I am seeing odd temps and fan speeds... which wasn't the case in the first week of ownership.

SYSTIN, CPUTIN, AUXTIN... all reporing 123C or 127C at random. Also, max RPM's on the fan speeds misreports at like 60,000 RPM and occasionally HWMonitor shows a fan that doesn't exist (at zero or around 30 RPM).

The only changes I've made since the build is installing the Asus Suite 2 software and installing a H100 cooler in place of a hyper 212+.

EDIT: Core temps are fine, looking at them in RealTemp at around 50C loaded (60 C intelburntest max).

That's what I thought those temps are misreporting and notorious for making owners pull there hair out. I would ignore them. I forgot to mention the latest version of Real Temp and Core Temp report accurately on my V-pro B3 so they should work well as you have discovered for free software. I have found the AISuite 2 software buggie at best interfering with other software and in general not working. I recommend making changes to the bios manually and removing it from your system.
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Note TwoCables setting CPU Current Capability: 140% if you are using this for the x46 multi it is no wonder you have higher than needed vCore try 130% for the lower clock and start from there. Lower voltage is always better and always depends on the proc it self. We all should try to tweak down our voltages and when templates are provided bare in mind they are only a starting points and your system will most certainly be different in what it actually needs for stability. Anything that end up less than what someone else needs is a plus and in the end means less heat, wear and tear on your system components. I'd also think you could run 1.65 VCCIO instead of the default 1.8v. Keep in mind here all the auto setting will likely be higher than actual required.
If you are speaking of the CPUTIN voltage from HWMonitor it is notorious for miss reporting however you would want to pay attention to the CPU Core Temps which normally report correctly. I just don't trust it when it already misreports stuff, I believe even Asus software (AISuite) misreports the same and I recommend not installing either on your system. I use Aida Extreme (paid ver) for monitoring and all reports accurately

Ok I set it to 130% and I still have the voltage at - .04v. Running IBT now at maximum to see how things turn out. Max volt I see in CPU-Z now is 1.336v still.

Should I try to lower the CPU Current Capability even more or leave it at 130% and keep lowering the offset voltage?

Also, I am from Cape Coral and graduated from Cape Coral High School in 2003. I'm in the Air Force now so I am currently in Michigan. Pretty cool seeing someone from the place I grew up though!

EDIT - Current Capability at 130% didn't visibly change anything. I turned the Load Line Calibration down to High and I got a blue screen shortly after testing since the voltage ran lower. I am running IBT now with - .045 v with the Load Line Calibration back on Ultra High. Should I put the LLC back to High and just raise the voltage some? What is the difference between running a higher LLC/lower voltage or lower LLC/higher voltage...either way you are still getting a higher voltage. I guess there may be less vDroop with a higher LLC. So which way is the best to have it? Seems the higher the LLC the higher your temperatures as well.
Edited by MaStA819 - 12/5/11 at 3:22pm
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Memory problem? Care to link me to a couple threads so I could read up on it.
I've ordered ton's of these boards, some of them where DOA or died unexpectedly but never caught fire or blew.

Did you use the same memory for all three mobo's? did you check the PSU? have you ever tried running it caseless?

My first P8P67 went right after using it about 4 hours. The second one lasted for a good 5-ish months. I recently bought a H80 and 8GB of Corsair Vengeance memory to replace my 4GB Corsair Vengeance memory. Both boards had used the 4GB kit. Upon upgrading to the 8, it happened again. When I installed this new 8GB memory, I did not take the mobo out of the case.. Just swapped the ram. redface.gif
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