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Agreed, totally worth it, but...
It does say something that either ASUS or the P67/Z68 platform is unable to overclock and still maintain correct functionality of SpeedStep. I'm wanting to switch over to Z68 for client's builds, but after many months of testing, I'm just not sure. P55 was solid as a rock...
That, and I'm slightly annoyed w/ ASUS at the moment because this GEN 3 I settled on for my personal build came with a defective PCIe x16_1 slot. A BSOD 119 every few days. The PCIe x16_2 works perfectly though (at x8 only of course), so I'll RMA as soon as I find a board I want to replace it with, hopefully very soon.

I agree with you that you want to see on an i7 2600K 3400MHz for normal operation. And you know it never did also not at stock. The tech works fine even when overclocking. Download Realtemp. There is a utility in there that can detect multipliers. This will give you an insight CPU-Z doesn't report. If you overclock per core it will even show that.

For the rest it seems you have bad luck. Succes with the RMA. The first board i recieved had bended cpu pins. And they claim it's my fault. I just lifted off the plastic socket cap....mad.gif
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post #6102 of 9343
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The tech works fine even when overclocking. Download Realtemp. There is a utility in there that can detect multipliers. This will give you an insight CPU-Z doesn't report. If you overclock per core it will even show that.
For the rest it seems you have bad luck. Succes with the RMA. The first board i recieved had bended cpu pins. And they claim it's my fault. I just lifted off the plastic socket cap....mad.gif

Except it doesn't work fine when overclocked, that's what I'm saying. I'm specifically referring to what appears in Realtemp. When Turbo is set to Auto, Realtemp will display the full range of incremental multipliers, and CPU-Z will concurrently display the full range of voltages. This is SpeedStep functioning correctly.

When Turbo is set to By All Cores or By Per Core for overclocking, Realtemp and CPU-Z do not display the full range. SpeedStep is not functioning correctly. The multiplier in Realtemp will jump directly from 16x to the Turbo multiplier, and in CPU-Z the voltage will jump the same. No in between.

It's not really bad luck either, I build a lot of systems, there's always a fairly consistent amount of defects. That's the nature of QA, you learn to live with it, but it's still annoying when it's for your own rig smile.gif
Edited by porksmuggler - 1/26/12 at 8:07pm
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post #6104 of 9343
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Maybe i should put it this way.
With a vcore set manually the voltage will be the most stable anyhow.
When in offset mode you allow the cpu to ask for a voltage which it will then get the best as the mainboard can. Under load the mainboard cannot deliver what is being asked and the voltage drops... This is called Vdroop. At stock this shouldn't be a problem the chip is designed to handle that. We overclock so that changes. We change the conditions the chip has to operate in. Then laws of physics kick in and here we are. No serious overclocker running for gold will use offset mode anyways. To unpredictable. For a 24/7 overclock it makes kinda sence though. It allows the CPU to relax and might lengthen it's life span. Altough we don't know that.
Now in offset mode we can predict what the vdroop will be because we can measure that during load. We punch in a offset depending on what the CPU asks (vid) If we keep LLC neutral it will drop. Now we punch in a higher number (Offset not LLC) and.. Yeah the overclock works under load. And idle should be stable. But we need to be energy efficient. So we want to tune idle voltage as well. There LLC is somewhat qiurky but a handy tool. We increase that just one step and everything changes. Not so much drop under load and less overvoltage during idle. This is where beauty is.
It's a song of fine tuning these two elements your mainboard and CPU offer you. You will need to take baby steps and if you do you will find harmony. The i5 and i7 K series are at stock very good performers as it is. There is at this moment little reason to ask for more because the software and games don't ask for much more. I do too overclock. I have mine stable at 4K5 in offset mode the way i described. Stable in a sence i did prime 95 for 24 hours, Linx 24 hours and idle is always good, most of the time the system is idle.
Asus and others build LLC in with overclockers in mind.....

Thanks for all of that info. As far as reading all of the posts, I skim most of it as I do not have a lot of free time, but agree more people should read everything first. Looks like I was able to get stable.


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Edited by selluminis - 1/26/12 at 11:32pm
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am just looking at your vcore for 4.8 @1.448v seem bit high
but their again if it stable and your temps looks good.have you tried reducing the vcore?or try 4.9 with the same vcore setting
my guess for 4.8 you should get down aleast 1.36/38v
am on 5.0 @ 1.42v and my temps are 64 min-68 max on full load
post #6106 of 9343
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Except it doesn't work fine when overclocked, that's what I'm saying. I'm specifically referring to what appears in Realtemp. When Turbo is set to Auto, Realtemp will display the full range of incremental multipliers, and CPU-Z will concurrently display the full range of voltages. This is SpeedStep functioning correctly.
When Turbo is set to By All Cores or By Per Core for overclocking, Realtemp and CPU-Z do not display the full range. SpeedStep is not functioning correctly. The multiplier in Realtemp will jump directly from 16x to the Turbo multiplier, and in CPU-Z the voltage will jump the same. No in between.
It's not really bad luck either, I build a lot of systems, there's always a fairly consistent amount of defects. That's the nature of QA, you learn to live with it, but it's still annoying when it's for your own rig smile.gif

Weird with my system it works just fine....
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am just looking at your vcore for 4.8 @1.448v seem bit high
but their again if it stable and your temps looks good.have you tried reducing the vcore?or try 4.9 with the same vcore setting
my guess for 4.8 you should get down aleast 1.36/38v
am on 5.0 @ 1.42v and my temps are 64 min-68 max on full load

I also think the vcore is a little high. But the temps are very reasonable. I would also try to get it lower though.
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It says in your sig that you have XMS memory, but those in the picture are HyperX memory??
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It says in your sig that you have XMS memory, but those in the picture are HyperX memory??

I updated my sig, but I must have not saved it or something, I do actually have the HyperX now, the XMS was my old kit
    
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