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Could someone post their bios settings that they used to achieve 4.5ghz please? (ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 &2500k)
Edited by gooface - 1/31/12 at 6:24pm
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How bout Deluxe gen 3 instead? Should be pretty similar
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How bout Deluxe gen 3 instead? Should be pretty similar

yeah that would work, I have an issue with my board right now though I cant get the thing to post with a videocard plugged into it

but when I use the onboard DVI out on the motherboard it works, but when I use the PCIE card (7970 or a x1650) the fans go all full blast and it beeps once and doesnt post and does nothing.
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FourDoor: You're going to be fine with 8 GB then and have no real need for 16 GB, thus, you should get the highest performance 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) package that your motherboard lists on the vendor hardware qualified list (with whichever BIOS version they state as being preferred) and stick with that. Memory timings aren't quite as important as memory frequency, so don't stress OCing your memory or goofing too much with your timings. 8 GB of 1833 or fast 1600 will out-perform any 16 GB solution that's anywhere near the same price range.

RainMotorSports: Yeah, even in a 18 MB RAW format opened in Photoshop, he's going to have to do a great deal of multiple file crunching to use up the full 6.X GB that Photoshop will reserve for system use.

Media Encoder is a different story. If FourDoor had said that he was doing heavy video encoding work then I'd be suggesting that he take a serious look at his memory use and that 16 GB may be called for in some cases of video editing and encoding. However, many of the Adobe products will gobble up as much memory as you allow them to; if you were to install 128 GB of RAM in a 64 bit OS then Photoshop will happily reserve 70% of that for image processing. (LOL)

In general:

It has been my experience that > 8 GB of RAM is useful if you're using Maya, 3DSMax, CAD/CAM software, some types of high-demand video encoding, SolidWorks, running a database server, or editing GB+ (or even TB+) satellite images. Obviously, it can be important in an enterprise environment for any number of purposes.

For the majority of gamers and enthusiasts, those who chose 16 GB over 8 GB did so because they got a good deal on the 16 GB package for just a few bucks more (good marketing), because the number looked bigger and seemed more impressive to post in their system signature (good marketing), or because their friends or other folks on the internet thought that it was necessary (thanks to good marketing) and talked them into it. Some gamers did so because they fall into the category where they frequently use 7.2 to 8.0+ GB of RAM and thus a 8 GB solution was not practical and in a dual-channel environment the next logical jump is 16 GB, which may be overkill for them, but it's the smallest that meets their needs. Those folks in that category should probably have chosen a triple-channel motherboard and gone with 12 GB of RAM, unless they're actually using 10.8 GB+ of memory, in which case fully populating dual-channel at 16 GB is probably better than fully populating triple-channel at 24 GB. This is because, if you have a triple-channel board, that's an entirely different story, as you're going to want to have 3 DIMMs installed and you're going to end up with 3 GB (3x 1 GB) , 6 GB (3x 2 GB), or 12 GB (3x 4 GB) installed for the best throughput.

In my case, 6 GB would be perfect for the type of gaming and general application work that I do on my PC, as I would almost never need to dip into a page file and my maximum memory use is right around 5.6 GB. However, as I'm dual-channel, 4 GB meant that I'd be thrashing on my HDD fairly often and 8 GB meant that I'd never need to dip into my pagefile. Thus, 8 GB is my sweet spot for performance on a more standard dual-channel board.

 


Great info. I wish I had known this a few months back when I built my SB and bought 4x4GB of 1600 DDR3 ram. Oh well.
 


There's an easy solution to that: remove a DIMM from Slot 1 and Slot 3 (or Slot 2 and Slot 4, depending on what your motherboard indicates is the preferred pair) and see if your system is any faster at things like PCMark or folding or Prime95 with 90% of memory used in a memory intensive test.

 

You can then sell the extra two DIMMs, cannibalize them for another rig, or re-install them into your main system depending on what results you get. :)

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What is the difference between GEN 3 and the others?

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Better? Testing BCLK. Got it to 105 in that CPU-Z. Going to try 106. Didnt like 107. And chip does at least a 50x so thats something.

the 2500k chip will go well over the 5.0 on 100.0 bclk if you got a good chip.it's recommended not to change the bclk pass 100.0 for reasons and am sure you will find them out soon or later
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What is the difference between GEN 3 and the others?

Thanks.


The B3 revision chipset resolves a problem in the Intel 6 series chipset that caused some SATA 3.0 GB/s ports to degrade over time leading to poor i/o performance or outright failures. This degradation and/or failure damaged some SSDs in a few isolated cases as well. The problem was in the Cougar Point chip and they had an immediate stop-shipment on all of the boards containing the chip.

 

Rev B3 was the solution to the recall notice and most owners of the older boards got free B3 upgrades under warranty.

 

While everything I said is true about Revision B3 vs Revision 2 and prior, when it applies to the P68 and H68 boards, this has nothing to do with your question, as your question refers to GENERATION 3 boards featuring the latest Ivy Bridge support and PCIe 3.0 Support.

 

I'm sorry for completely screwing this up and diverting you off onto a tangent that was meaningless. I've corrected it in the following posts, but felt that it was important to correct here as well, by striking through the statements that don't truly have anything to do with your question (even though they're true about older boards).

 

The strikethrough text does not apply to GEN 3 and again, I apologize for screwing up. (That's what I get for posting at the wee hours of the morning.)


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Better? Testing BCLK. Got it to 105 in that CPU-Z. Going to try 106. Didnt like 107. And chip does at least a 50x so thats something.

the 2500k chip will go well over the 5.0 on 100.0 bclk if you got a good chip.it's recommended not to change the bclk pass 100.0 for reasons and am sure you will find them out soon or later

Says who? I rock a raised BCLK....have since March of last year. My SSD doesn't like it over about 104 though....on my mech drives (before I got a SSD), I was good up to 106.
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Says who? I rock a raised BCLK....have since March of last year. My SSD doesn't like it over about 104 though....on my mech drives (before I got a SSD), I was good up to 106.


Generally 105 or lower BCLK is going to work decently well. But you're better off at 52 x 100 (or 51 x 100) than you would be at 49 x 105 in most cases. Memory is affected by the BCLK and as you discovered, so are SATA 3 gb and 6 gb devices (especially the latter).

 

I can't think of a situation where a system would be stable at 49x105 = 5145  and unstable at 52x100 = 5200 as if you're that close to the ragged edge of stability, you're better of stepping down a notch to 51x100 = 5100 anyhow.

 

With the current architecture, I just don't see the point to a BCLK change at all, especially in your case with such a nice running CPU.


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