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Says who? I rock a raised BCLK....have since March of last year. My SSD doesn't like it over about 104 though....on my mech drives (before I got a SSD), I was good up to 106.


Generally 105 or lower BCLK is going to work decently well. But you're better off at 50 x 100 than you would be at 48 x 104.5 in most cases. Memory is affected by the BCLK and as you discovered, so are SATA 3 gb and 6 gb devices (especially the latter).

I can't think of a situation where a system would be stable at 49x105 = 5145  and unstable at 52x100 = 5200 as if you're that close to the ragged edge of stability, you're better of stepping down a notch to 51x100 = 5100 anyhow.

With the current architecture, I just don't see the point to a BCLK change at all, especially in your case with such a nice running CPU.

RAM tweaking. wink.gif I'm at DDR3-2200 with 103.1 BCLK, and 4.95GHz on my CPU. Looks like my sig rig magically changed back to my old 100 BCLK runs...weird.

The point of doing it is to get the absolute MOST out of your hardware that you can.
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Does this mean if I buy a non-gen 3 right now, that it will already be updated and safe?

Thanks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131729
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The B3 revision chipset resolves a problem in the Intel 6 series chipset that caused some SATA 3.0 GB/s ports to degrade over time leading to poor i/o performance or outright failures. This degradation and/or failure damaged some SSDs in a few isolated cases as well. The problem was in the Cougar Point chip and they had an immediate stop-shipment on all of the boards containing the chip.

Rev B3 was the solution to the recall notice and most owners of the older boards got free B3 upgrades under warranty.
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Does this mean if I buy a non-gen 3 right now, that it will already be updated and safe?

 


No. You will need to purchase a Revision B3 board or purchase a factory retro-fitted Rev 2 board that has been certified as Rev B3 upgraded from the manufacturer. (There are a few out there that are like this.) If there is any doubt at all about what you're buying, just buy a Rev B3.

 

This will teach me to post at the wee hours of the morning without reading carefully.

 

GEN 3 is fine, and isn't at all affected by the recall on the P68/H68 Revision 2 CougarPoint stuff and has nothing to do with Rev B3.

 

I screwed up and read your post as "not revision 3"  vs "not generation 3" and those are two very different things. I've addressed this in later posts but felt that it was very important to strike through my erroneous message here and correct it here as well.
 

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RAM tweaking. wink.gif I'm at DDR3-2200 with 103.1 BCLK, and 4.95GHz on my CPU. Looks like my sig rig magically changed back to my old 100 BCLK runs...weird.

The point of doing it is to get the absolute MOST out of your hardware that you can.


Ah, you caught me as I was editing! Heheh! I understand the concept of getting the most out of your system.

 

What sort of gains have you seen from the faster RAM? I've not really seen much difference (with what I'm doing) when I toyed around with clocking my 1600 up to 1833 on my system.

 

Can you accomplish the same RAM speeds at 50x100 with other settings in the RAM, or is the extra 3.1% on the BCLK the only way to do it for you?


Edited by shad0wfax - 2/1/12 at 8:59am
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How bout Deluxe gen 3 instead? Should be pretty similar

Surely B3 and Gen3 are different things. Isn't B3 a stepping above the P8P67 ones with the faulty sata?

Doesn't Gen3 mean P8Z68 PCIe 3.0 ready?
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Holy moly.
The V version I posted above doesn't even support SATA 3 RAID.
And the pro / gen 3 is $200.

Mate, know of any other boards that are any good?
ASROCK seems to have issues similar to my current ASROCK board.
Gigabyte reviews showed problems with SATA RAID or SATA 3, boot loop issues. ph34r-smiley.gif

EDIT:

Funny, the Rev. 3 PRO just went on sale (MIR, actually.)
I've seen "a lot" of bad reviews about asus, primarily their customer support.

Do you think I'll be fine?
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No. You will need to purchase a Revision B3 board or purchase a factory retro-fitted Rev 2 board that has been certified as Rev B3 upgraded from the manufacturer. (There are a few out there that are like this.) If there is any doubt at all about what you're buying, just buy a Rev B3.


 

Edited by icor1031 - 2/1/12 at 2:50am
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Hm strange seems like igpu interfering with ur gpu. Try disabling it in bios
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The B3 revision chipset resolves a problem in the Intel 6 series chipset that caused some SATA 3.0 GB/s ports to degrade over time leading to poor i/o performance or outright failures. This degradation and/or failure damaged some SSDs in a few isolated cases as well. The problem was in the Cougar Point chip and they had an immediate stop-shipment on all of the boards containing the chip.

Rev B3 was the solution to the recall notice and most owners of the older boards got free B3 upgrades under warranty.

No, No, No mad.gif

GEN3 supports PCI3.0 with an Ivy Bridge Processor when they come out.

If the difference in cost isn't much I would plump for GEN3 as it provides more flexibility in future and may aid the resale value of your board.

The Rev B3 issue is something separate and didn't affect the Z68 boards as Intel had resolved the issue before Z68 was launched. I would think it would be unlikely that anywhere reputable would still have any non-B3 boards.
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New to the site and to system building in general. Just "completed" (sure...) my first real build and I'm very happy with it. I do a lot of audio editing by trade, as well as a fair amount of flight simming. Looking forward to unlocking the potential of this mobo!

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Hm strange seems like igpu interfering with ur gpu. Try disabling it in bios

I just have PCIE\PCI enabled, thats where it should be right?
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I just have PCIE\PCI enabled, thats where it should be right?

I just disabled mine. You don't really need it. If you have a good graphics card just use it by it self. That's just my two cents though.,

Also yes, that is the correct value you should have selected.
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