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EDIT: I have corrected my posts by striking through the misleading/erroneous text and I also sent icor1031 a PM to make sure that he is aware of my error.

 

 

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Originally Posted by madchemist83 View Post

How bout Deluxe gen 3 instead? Should be pretty similar

Surely B3 and Gen3 are different things. Isn't B3 a stepping above the P8P67 ones with the faulty sata?

Doesn't Gen3 mean P8Z68 PCIe 3.0 ready?


Gen 3 is fine, and has none of the Rev 2 issues from the year+ older P68/H68 boards. I made a mistake.

 

I read what he wrote as "not rev 3" instead of "not gen 3" which is a serious mistake and led him down a path of confusion. I've fixed my posts.

 

Thank you and blinkyuk for catching my error so quickly. +rep for catching it

 

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Originally Posted by icor1031 View Post

Holy moly.
The V version I posted above doesn't even support SATA 3 RAID.
And the pro / gen 3 is $200.

Mate, know of any other boards that are any good?
ASROCK seems to have issues similar to my current ASROCK board.
Gigabyte reviews showed problems with SATA RAID or SATA 3, boot loop issues. ph34r-smiley.gif

EDIT:

Funny, the Rev. 3 PRO just went on sale (MIR, actually.)
I've seen "a lot" of bad reviews about asus, primarily their customer support.

Do you think I'll be fine?
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No. You will need to purchase a Revision B3 board or purchase a factory retro-fitted Rev 2 board that has been certified as Rev B3 upgraded from the manufacturer. (There are a few out there that are like this.) If there is any doubt at all about what you're buying, just buy a Rev B3.


 


Sorry, I got confused on Gen 3 vs Rev 3.

 

Any Gen 3 board is going to be fine, as blinkyuk corrects me on in the below quote.

 

Sorry about that.



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The B3 revision chipset resolves a problem in the Intel 6 series chipset that caused some SATA 3.0 GB/s ports to degrade over time leading to poor i/o performance or outright failures. This degradation and/or failure damaged some SSDs in a few isolated cases as well. The problem was in the Cougar Point chip and they had an immediate stop-shipment on all of the boards containing the chip.

Rev B3 was the solution to the recall notice and most owners of the older boards got free B3 upgrades under warranty.

No, No, No mad.gif

GEN3 supports PCI3.0 with an Ivy Bridge Processor when they come out.

If the difference in cost isn't much I would plump for GEN3 as it provides more flexibility in future and may aid the resale value of your board.

The Rev B3 issue is something separate and didn't affect the Z68 boards as Intel had resolved the issue before Z68 was launched. I would think it would be unlikely that anywhere reputable would still have any non-B3 boards.
 



Alright, sorry, I was just having flashbacks of Revision 3 and getting confused when he asked about Gen 3.  And you're correct, the Rev B3 thing had nothing to do with the Z boards, it was the P68 and H68 boards that it affected.

 

So I eat my words.

 

I have, however, seen older revision 2 boards that have been repaired and re-chipped to be B3 compliant being sold in a scattering of places that don't do high sales volume. I've never seen a revision 2 board that hasn't been repaired for sale since the recall.

 

Sorry about that. I goofed.

 

Thank you for catching this; I should have caught it, but I'm glad that you did. +rep for catching it

 


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I've been using my P8Z68V-PRO since October and it just died... What to do? The outlet I bought it from is no longer in business, and ASUS said that I should take it back. I can't.

The wierd thing is that I was running it completely stock out of the box, using the basic VGA port. a network cable, a couple of GB of RAM with a small 40GB SATA HDD and a basic DVD drive. The CPU fitted was the i7-2600k which is still ok. NO OVERCLOCKING! PSU is also still perfect. I have no idea why it stopped working.

I was writing an email and it froze then the screen went black. Since then no PC. I'm writing this on a nasty little EEPC thing. Urghh!

I miss my Z68.... It was the best, fastest responding PC I've ever had.

Any ideas anyone what I should do to get out of this predicament?
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Originally Posted by fredfred2 View Post

I've been using my P8Z68V-PRO since October and it just died... What to do? The outlet I bought it from is no longer in business, and ASUS said that I should take it back. I can't.

The wierd thing is that I was running it completely stock out of the box, using the basic VGA port. a network cable, a couple of GB of RAM with a small 40GB SATA HDD and a basic DVD drive. The CPU fitted was the i7-2600k which is still ok. NO OVERCLOCKING! PSU is also still perfect. I have no idea why it stopped working.

I was writing an email and it froze then the screen went black. Since then no PC. I'm writing this on a nasty little EEPC thing. Urghh!

I miss my Z68.... It was the best, fastest responding PC I've ever had.

Any ideas anyone what I should do to get out of this predicament?


Call Asus and RMA it under Asus' warranty service. Insist on a RMA number and don't even bring up the retailer merchant being out of business; that has no bearing on Asus warranty service. You get no POST beep at all? You say the PSU is perfect, so I'm assuming that you tested the PSU on another PC?

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new result with my new asus toy
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I see someone likes Portal II....I've played it like 3 times now and I'm portaled out....lol...Good game, makes you think. Another one you may like is Q.U.B.E. (Quick Understanding of Block Extrusion)...Very similar, but very different at the same time.
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What is the difference between GEN 3 and the others?
Thanks.

Gen3 supports PCI3.0 with an Ivy Bridge Processor. What that basically means is when the next generation of video cards (Generation 3) comes out you'll be able to run this hardware without updating anything. (Don't hold your breath waiting though, just my opinion.)
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I've been using my P8Z68V-PRO since October and it just died... What to do? The outlet I bought it from is no longer in business, and ASUS said that I should take it back. I can't.
The wierd thing is that I was running it completely stock out of the box, using the basic VGA port. a network cable, a couple of GB of RAM with a small 40GB SATA HDD and a basic DVD drive. The CPU fitted was the i7-2600k which is still ok. NO OVERCLOCKING! PSU is also still perfect. I have no idea why it stopped working.
I was writing an email and it froze then the screen went black. Since then no PC. I'm writing this on a nasty little EEPC thing. Urghh!
I miss my Z68.... It was the best, fastest responding PC I've ever had.
Any ideas anyone what I should do to get out of this predicament?

Before it died did you update the BIO's? Is there anywhere on the board you can see poor soldering like cold joints, (not shiny) or maybe cracks anywhere. Usually a freeze and then a black screen would indicate a problem or error with the OS. Will it boot, not boot, but come on? Meaning will it appear to turn on, but then doesn't boot?
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I just have PCIE\PCI enabled, thats where it should be right?

Try disabling the igpu monitor as well. Has to be that or a bad card. Also, make sure the main video is set to pcie/pci. I forget where it was. Want to say in advanced. If that does not work, then you may have either a bad card or pcie slot. Try other slots to see if they work.
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No it's something like intel virtualization. I'll look it up tonite on my board
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I've been using my P8Z68V-PRO since October and it just died... What to do? The outlet I bought it from is no longer in business, and ASUS said that I should take it back. I can't.
The wierd thing is that I was running it completely stock out of the box, using the basic VGA port. a network cable, a couple of GB of RAM with a small 40GB SATA HDD and a basic DVD drive. The CPU fitted was the i7-2600k which is still ok. NO OVERCLOCKING! PSU is also still perfect. I have no idea why it stopped working.
I was writing an email and it froze then the screen went black. Since then no PC. I'm writing this on a nasty little EEPC thing. Urghh!
I miss my Z68.... It was the best, fastest responding PC I've ever had.
Any ideas anyone what I should do to get out of this predicament?

My DIMM B slots (both) have stopped working. The RAM works just fine on either of the DIMM A slots and I've tried them one by one. Anyhow, when I contacted ASUS about RMA that's what they told me too, take it to the retailer which is going to be a PITA with no mobo for god knows how long for their testing and then requesting RMA and mailing etc etc.

Anyhow, as suggested above I might just email them back saying nope.. want to deal direct with ASUS as it's their process and board which at least should remove few days.
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My DIMM B slots (both) have stopped working. The RAM works just fine on either of the DIMM A slots and I've tried them one by one. Anyhow, when I contacted ASUS about RMA that's what they told me too, take it to the retailer which is going to be a PITA with no mobo for god knows how long for their testing and then requesting RMA and mailing etc etc.
Anyhow, as suggested above I might just email them back saying nope.. want to deal direct with ASUS as it's their process and board which at least should remove few days.

I'd stick to your guns and deal with ASUS directly. Either way you'll be without a board for awhile (and that's got to suck) but I think you're right in it'll chop a few days off the whole ordeal. ASUS tends to be fairly fast with turn a rounds on fixing boards.
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@ shad0wfax and error-id10t

Thanks guys. I've done what you suggested: I've filled in their online 'returns' form so now I wait. This is what I wrote if it helps anyone else in the future:
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This PC is one of four identical systems all networked together. The other three systems still work perfectly. This system was used for database management, in an office environment. The operating environment is clean, dry and dust free. There is low humidity and the climate is controlled. No fluids were near the system.

The system was operating without a single failure for approx 1500 hours. Failure was at approx 2PM GMT. 26 January 2012. Outside weather conditions were fine, sunny and dry.

There were no high power RF sources or any other significant EMI nearby.

The system was completely standard, with NO OVERCLOCKING.

The power supply was working perfectly.

There were NO power surges or other events at the time of failure.

The CPU, Memory, HDD, Monitor, USB devices, Hub and Power supply that were connected to this motherboard are still working perfectly; They were tested in a different P8Z68V-PRO motherboard.

Devices from a working motherboard were inserted into the failed unit to isolate if the motherboard or the inserted components were at fault. Inserting working components into the motherboard did not change the status of the system. It didn't work with new components.

Original installation was correctly performed using anti static mats on the bench, anti static wrist bands and a clean work environment. I have been assembling PCs for over 25 Years. I used to work for AMD as an engineer.

Symptoms:
I was reading email and the screen froze. Then a second later the screen went black and the PC powered down. It would not restart even after complete power cycling.

The heatsink on the Z68 chip became >>very<< hot once it was powered up again after failure. So hot that the ASUS label 'melted' and fell off. I powered off and detached the removable spring loaded heatsink to check what had happened to the chip, but there was no visible problem. I reattached the heatsink using fresh thermal compound (as recommended on ASUS web site). Powered up, but there was no change.

The board will not power up and run through POST. Only the power and reset buttons illuminate on the PCB. The CPU fan will not power up. The motherboard is completely dead. It is my guess that the Intel Z68 chip has gone 'latch-up'. It is unclear why this has happened as the Intel Z68 device is a modern MOS based semiconductor.

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EDIT: I have corrected my posts by striking through the misleading/erroneous text and I also sent icor1031 a PM to make sure that he is aware of my error.




Gen 3 is fine, and has none of the Rev 2 issues from the year+ older P68/H68 boards. I made a mistake.

I read what he wrote as "not rev 3" instead of "not gen 3" which is a serious mistake and led him down a path of confusion. I've fixed my posts.

Thank you and blinkyuk for catching my error so quickly. +rep for catching it



Sorry, I got confused on Gen 3 vs Rev 3.

Any Gen 3 board is going to be fine, as blinkyuk corrects me on in the below quote.

Sorry about that.



Alright, sorry, I was just having flashbacks of Revision 3 and getting confused when he asked about Gen 3.  And you're correct, the Rev B3 thing had nothing to do with the Z boards, it was the P68 and H68 boards that it affected.

So I eat my words.

I have, however, seen older revision 2 boards that have been repaired and re-chipped to be B3 compliant being sold in a scattering of places that don't do high sales volume. I've never seen a revision 2 board that hasn't been repaired for sale since the recall.

Sorry about that. I goofed.

Thank you for catching this; I should have caught it, but I'm glad that you did. +rep for catching it

Not a problem, we all goof from time to time. I've +repped you for this reply and going back and correcting your posts.

Although I am new here I have used a lot of different forums over the years...
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