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Originally Posted by Erper View Post


But its kinda weird thing that different programs are showing different temps and clocks on cpu....
even before cleaning, bios was showing 33 temp comparing to realtemp in win where it was 43-45...

Ever since duo-cores came in temps have not been measured directly, but inferred from distance to throttling. As far as Intel is concerned this is near enough. As a result no two temp programs are going to give you exact temps, and the temps at the top of the scale will be more accurate than lower temps. Maybe you could get truly accurate temps by using a probe, but the temps that progs give you are considered "near enough"

If you are particularly interested in this "Uncle Web" who made RealTemp explains it in this thread at Xtremesystems

Also see Chicken Inferno's post on The Truth about Temperatures and Voltages
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In other words, Intel did not design these temp sensors for us to use as thermometers.  They were only for the CPU's eyes only and therefore are only accurate in the higher ranges (like above 50°C).  So, Intel essentially left us with no choice but to use what I consider to be rather crude methods of monitoring temperatures.

 

However, the difference between BIOS and Windows is another thing because the state of the CPU is different in the BIOS than it is in Windows.

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It was your BIOS flash. I did the same thing last week. Updated my BIOS and my system was unstable with RAM any higher than 1333... I was also missing a few options under the AI tweaker menu. Can you take a couple SS of your AI Tweaker menu with F12 and post them here?

Which BIOS did you use which caused the problem?
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I want to add little bit regarding CPU temp. CPU use Digital Thermal Sensor (DTS) to report core temperature. It is an offset from TJMax. TJMax is the maximum temperature before CPU protection mechanism kicked in, e.g. throttling. If CPU temp reached approximately 130C, it will trigger another signal which will shutdown the CPU to prevent catastrophic failure. Usually system designer will set this trip point lower, so it will shutdown earlier than that. For example TJMax = 98C, if CPU temp is 90C, that means it's 8C (DTS) away from TJMax. It's all about the distance between the core temp & TJMax.

Tj = DTS + TjMax(register)
* Tj is CPU temperature.
* DTS is read as negative number, e.g Tj = -8C + 98C = 90C

This is how software like RealTemp & Core Temp report CPU temperature.
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So if those programs are reporting 90c on cpu its still safe temp but ib longer period will only reduce life of cpu...
Nice...
Ill post settings later today to see what do u think where could i squeze extra bit from it to reduce temp and increase speed...
Regards
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So if those programs are reporting 90c on cpu its still safe temp but ib longer period will only reduce life of cpu...
Nice...
Ill post settings later today to see what do u think where could i squeze extra bit from it to reduce temp and increase speed...
Regards


Bottom line higher vcore = higher temps have you tried lowering CPU PLL from the default 1.8 to say 1.6? It's a known tweak for lowering temps and in some cases the ability to lower Vcore and still be stable. A word of caution however do run some benchmarks (3DM11) to fine tune the pLL adjustments although the differences are minute I think it's an important step. I have seen reduced performance at the same core clock when setting CPU PLL to low. My sweet spot seems to be 1.65v on the V-Pro but YMMV.

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EDIT:

Ive reduced Capability to 130%
and changed vcore from offset to 1.38..
so far i have 5c lower temp
also ive changed my cpu pll to 1.65

Before changing


After Chaniging

Edited by Erper - 7/24/12 at 5:57am
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I dont mean to change the subject but can anyone tell me what Ai suite I should use? I have a copy with my motherboard but should i get the latest version?
One other thing is that i have Corsair Vengeance Memory 1666 or whatever do i have to change a setting in the Bios to get it at the higher frequency or whatever it is.
THanks for not stepping by this post .
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I dont mean to change the subject but can anyone tell me what Ai suite I should use? I have a copy with my motherboard but should i get the latest version?
One other thing is that i have Corsair Vengeance Memory 1666 or whatever do i have to change a setting in the Bios to get it at the higher frequency or whatever it is.
THanks for not stepping by this post .

you dont OC you rig in windows, only bios to be stable... because as soon you reinstall win you will loose all those settings...
and one more thing
you dont want to OC you memory for more than it is
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You miss understand me. I'm not trying to overclock. i just need to know if it will work at the higher settings (memory) straight out of the box at 1600 or is it just set t to 1333 and i have to change a setting to make it work . I heard you have to thats all.
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